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turner ashby

Discussion in 'vBench (Works in Progress)' started by petermh, Feb 24, 2006.

  1. petermh Active Member

    I thought you might like to see my completed figure of major turner ashby prior to painting.The figure was inspired by a painting by john paul strain in his book "Witness to the Civil War" which must be the best value book of civil war art on the market. The figure comprises various spare parts plus some scratch building .The horse is an andrea chariot horse
  2. garyjd Well-Known Member

    Peter, I do like that, very nice. IMHO the BEST Civil War art today is being produced by Troiani and Rocco. The type of "art" that guys like Strain and Kunstler produce are better suited for calendars, mousepads, and coffee mugs. :) ~Gary
  3. Blind Pew A Fixture

    Chuffin' hell Pete. Top stuff.
    Look forward to seeing the finished peice ;)
  4. petermh Active Member

    the John Paul Strain book retails for under £10 in the UK (amazon) about the same price as an Osprey book,whereas keith Rocco's book is £35 I'll stick to my guns that the Strain book represents exceptional value for money
    Although I like both Trioani & Rocco I still think Strain is the best equestrian artist of the three & the book certainly provides plenty of inspiration for the modeller . I am not sure why you are so dissmissive of his work, we'll just have to agree to disacree on this point
    I also quite like Mort Kunstler & I have his calender on my wall
  5. Dan Morton A Fixture

    Well done! A fine, dramatic scene well conceived and sculpted!

    All the best,
  6. garyjd Well-Known Member

    Peter, I like a bargain like everyone else. I just feel that not only the art, but research Troiani and Rocco put into their art is the best "period" representation of the subjects they paint. For me Kunstler's paintings lack the authentic punch that Troiani and Rocco's have. For me a "pretty" snow scene is not "historical art", it's nothing more than illustration. Though Strain may be able to paint horses his soldiers look like badly uniformed reenactors and also pack that authentic punch. This is just my opinion.~Gary

    PS, Here's an amusing look at limited edition historical art.

  7. Kisifer Well-Known Member

    That's a really beautiful piece Peter. Excellent posing. I can't wait to see him painted.

  8. Dani A. New Member


    The figure looks promising! Please show us updates, and detail photos if possible.

    I would like to add that I second Gary's opinion on the different authors mentioned, and for the same reasons. Yes, Rocco's and Troiani's books are expensive, but I find their works are worth the asking price, because I value the additional historical aspects they have.

    Kunstler in particular I consider very overestimated, and I am not referring to the accuracy factor only; I do not think his work merits so many published books. He must have a good commercial agent...

    This is not to say I can not appreciate a nice artistic work; Lady Butler's battle escenes can be very compelling, even if they are not completely accurate; but we must separate things.

    Strain can be inspiring, but he is not in the same league as Rocco or Troiani, who are real historical painters. The "historical" adjective makes the difference for me. I guess Gary and me are very much in the same tune in these questions.

    Of course this is just my opinion. Regards,

  9. garyjd Well-Known Member

    Peter, I meant to ask is this just a portrait figure of Ashby, or does it represent him at a particular action?~Gary
  10. Guy A Fixture

    Fantastic work Peter. I like the scene you are depicting and look forward to seeing more.
  11. petermh Active Member

    It,s a portrait. Strain's painting appears on the cover of america's civil war magazine of May 2005 which is where I first saw it and determined I would like to try and reproduce it,however having purchased the horse I decided it looked more realistic if it were jumping an obstacle so I introduced the stone wall.
  12. Roc Active Member

    Pete, beautiful sculpture, great action pose.

    Keep up the good work.

    Roc. :)
  13. IronMike Well-Known Member

    Nice work and great idea. Ashby is a favorite in the Shenandoah Valley. The next issue of HM magazine will have an article on a trip some of us took down the Valley and on to Gettysburg. On the way we stopped in Port Republic and saw the house were Ashby was laid out after he was killed. A little later we visited the site were he had been killed.

    I too have that book by Strain. Keep up the good work. (I was once inspired by a childrens coloring book illustrated by Donna Neary. Go figure.)
  14. garyjd Well-Known Member

    Mike, I think they should not have even put "coloring book" in the title for the book. the drawings are nice and the text is way over the head of any kid that is of "coloring book" age. :) ~Gary
  15. Guy A Fixture

    Coloring book age?..............I know alot of people my age who are coloring book fans.............me included.
  16. Roc Active Member

    Guy, I'm also a coloring book fan, nothing wrong with that. ;)

    Roc. :)
  17. megroot A Fixture


    I find this great. Alot of action in the figure. Now i wait for the paiting.

  18. CorySF Guest

    "Ashby is here". Thank you for an excellent rendition of a rather obscure figure in the ACW, (he isn't taught in the history books even though he fought with as much fury as Nathan Bedford Forrest). I can't wait to see him painted. If however you paint him as a Major you might be in error as he went straight from Captain to Colonel then briefly (2 weeks) as a Brigadier General before getting killed in June of '62.


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