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Trouble w/vallejo

Discussion in 'Acrylics' started by captnenglish, Feb 17, 2015.

  1. captnenglish Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    I will preface this by saying I have been painting with acrylics almost as long as I have been painting figures (mid 80s). Anyway I am working on a piece for a competition in 2 weeks and one bit needed a second coat. I had wait over night to get to it (distractions), this morning I started to paint the second coat and the whole thing sluffed off. I have never had this happen. I mostly use Reaper, but need Vallejo for certain things What did I do wrong?


    Edit: the piece is resin.
  2. Bob Orr Active Member

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    what are you using to thin the paint. Did you prime the figure before the first coat?

    Bob
  3. captnenglish Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Water and yes. Again I have been an acrylics painter since the 80s
  4. billyturnip A Fixture

    Country:
    England
    Perhaps some kind of cross contamination? Could you have had some thinners on your brush?

    Roger.
  5. captnenglish Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Maybe I had just switched to different brush.
  6. Silverb New Member

    That is very strange indeed.
    I'm just going to throw a bunch of ideas up here in case some might stick.
    • As others have pointed out. Were there any kind of solvent (i.e. thinner, brush soap residue, alcohol) present on your brush?
    • How much flow-aid did you used in the paint? both the coat being applied and the one that pealed off? Excessive flow-aid use reduces durability of paint.
    • How extensive did you thin the coat that came off? (This is unlikely the cause, but worth a thought)
    • Did you use any other additives in the previous coat of paint, e.g. hair-spray weathering techniques etc
    • Was there any varnish/sealer applied below the coat that pealed off. When varnishes are applied prior to the underlying paint being fully cured, the moisture is trapped and can cause paint to peal.
    • How hard was your brush. Hard synthetic brushes can sometime scrub off thin coats of paint.
    Those are all I could think of right now. Hope the above ideas are of some use to you.
  7. captnenglish Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Thanks. No flow aid used here, other than water (tap). No hairspray/sealer/varnish here either. I will try a different brush as one of the two I used might have had some sort of solvent/chemical on it or the second one could have scrubbed it off. It I will also try another coat of primer.

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