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Templar Knight Standard Bearer- Romeo models

Discussion in 'Figure News' started by maco61, Jun 20, 2012.

  1. maco61 A Fixture

    Country:
    Italy
    Latest new in June by Romeo Models.
    Title: Templar Knight Standard Bearer , XIII Century
    Item: RM 54-107
    Sculpture: Gianni La Rocca.
    Painter: Andrea Terzolo.
    Material: White metal
    Serie: elite
    Scale: 54 mm
    Ciao by Maco

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  2. bagelman1952 Well-Known Member

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    England
  3. debrito A Fixture

    Country:
    Canada
    Is on the list for sure....love it...(y)
  4. Figurenfreund66 Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Germany
    Why it must again be a Templar, and then again with errors?

    Templars wore no gloves, dignitaries besides craftsmen and church. This is well defined!
    Is it so difficult to search the easy times, or questions??

    Modeling and pose I like, but you gave the impression it only in the Holy Land Templar and nothing else!

    Cheers

    Hendryk
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  5. Edorta A Fixture

    Country:
    Spain
    I like it. Hendryk, surely you´re right. Anyway, when I paint this figure, maybe next month, I will paint it without gloves. It wil be esy to remove the crease of the glove to the wrist.

    Military miniatures painted by Eduardo Garcia
  6. Figurenfreund66 Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Germany
    Hi Edoardo

    This is certainly true, but not the purpose. Why can not avoid such mistakes as a manufacturer from the outset?
    Finally, we have to pay good money for collectors and then again I do not want to invest more time and sometimes money to get it right!
    The issue is not new, and therefore the more annoying!

    Cheers

    Hendryk
  7. Edorta A Fixture

    Country:
    Spain
    TRUE! I totally agree. Anyway I´ll buy the figure, I like it a lot.

    Military miniatures painted by Eduardo Garcia
  8. Helm A Fixture

    Country:
    England
    Sadly some manufactures go for what will sell/look good rather than what is accurate, not that you can totally blame them but they shouldn't present them as historical figures IMO

    Steve
  9. housecarl A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Maybe he had cold hands.:eek:
    Carl.(y)
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  10. Helm A Fixture

    Country:
    England
    In the desert ?

    That said I recall my dad saying when he was stationed in Egypt just after WWII his mother thought he'd been out in the sun too long when he wrote home asking for a balaclava and gloves (It gets very cold at night in the desert) :LOL:

    Steve
  11. Figurenfreund66 Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Germany
    The Codex of the Knights Templar is a very close look and handed down.
    The dress code says that the gloves could be worn only by craftsmen and church dignitaries of the Order.

    @ Eduardo - that is ok - but you know what i mean . It just annoys me, this superficiality!
    Cheers

    Hendryk
  12. polyphemus Well-Known Member

    The problem is when such mistakes are replicated by other sculptors/painters. How many templar "knights" do you see painted with a white surcoat & black cloak following the box art produced for a Pegaso 90mm Templar a few years ago.

    Geoff
  13. housecarl A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    I'm painting Pegaso's crusader bust. Am I right in thinking white surcoat and cloak?
    Cheers,
    Carl.(y)
  14. ChaosCossack A Fixture

    Country:
    Canada
    I'm no expert on the crusades but I was always under the impression that Templars wore black surcoat with white cross, Hospitallars (spelling?) wore white surcoat with red cross and the Teutonic Orders wore white with black crosses. Like I said no expert... just how I remember seeing it years ago and it stuck with me. I've been wrong before:rolleyes:

    That being said, as a sculpt this is a beautiful piece (historical accuracy aside) with a very characterful pose. Looks like the painting possiblities could be challenging. Not my era, but a nice figure just the same.

    One question, have the makers forgotten the are other medieval warriors besides crusading Templars? Maybe 100 years war, War of the Roses or German or Italian knights in their splendid plate armour. Doesn't the surcoat and chainmail become monotonous?

    Colin
  15. polyphemus Well-Known Member

    Carl, yep you're OK with that.

    Colin, simplistically Templar knights white/red cross, Hospitallers black or red/white cross & Teutonics white/black cross.
    The Templars are a bit of a minefield with their various prescriptions concerning gloves, facial hair etc.
    I agree there is a very wide scope for many more medieval figures beyond the Crusades.

    Geoff
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  16. housecarl A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Thanks Geoff.
    Carl.(y)
  17. Mirofsoft A Fixture

    Country:
    Belgium
    Nice piece, pity it's not a colorfull subject . The guy is wearing gloves because he has a skin disease .
    Best
  18. housecarl A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Could be Raynaud's.
    Carl.(y)
  19. petermh Active Member

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    You could argue that by the 13th century mail sleeves were generally wrist length with or without mail mittens attached you could also argue that by that time hemets had a flatter top than that depicted.
    You coud argue that the order's standard was black over white without any cross and there is evidence that shields were painted the same, or white with a small red cross in the top left hand corner.
    Or you could accept that the crusades happened nearly a 1000 years ago and these things are open to arguement.
    This is an excellent figure and if your'e unhappy that he is wearing gloves you could always paint him as a secular knight of the kingdom of Outremer you can find plenty of examples of the various coats of arms on wikipedia
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  20. Mirofsoft A Fixture

    Country:
    Belgium
    I agree with petermh but the second knucle of the fourth finger of the left hand is to short for that ... :)
    You could also decide it's a fantasy army : like Arch-Lord's Leodan's Color Bearer and paint Mona Lisa on the flag with a green flesh tone .
    Or simply follow the instructions on the box ; it's a nice figure .
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