Has it been dumbed down it won't even bond my fingers together , having great difficulty getting it to bond metal to metal

I think what we have here is the mistake of trying to glue your fingers together. Try Gorilla epoxy two part clear for metal; sets in 5 minutes if you can hold it that long unless it's pinned. I usually go into a deep meditative state while holding something together for five minutes. And then I have trouble opening my hands because of arthritis. Sometimes you have to sacrifice life and limb.

Super glue can be erratic.
I recognise the scenario and keep Araldite Rapid on hand where needed.
The gazing-into-space hold parts together is surpisingly awkward.
Empty your bladder first.

Ive found that the cheapest (3 tubes for a quid) at our local shop works much better than the expensive stuff.....

The short answer is yes they have...new regulations for 'domestic' adhesives were applied 3 years ago.
If you want a good fast CA...look for the 'industrial' grades...such as.....

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/30356785...GvYR80vp6SOvFg%3D%3D|ampid:PL_CLK|clp:2047675

I use both grades...with the gel being slower to activate...but stronger when dry...although a quick burst of 'activator' spray will create an instant bond.
Used both on ali/copper/brass/steel/resin/white metal/plastics/wood/foam/balsa etc. all with no issues.

Ron C

David..... Meditation is more than just gazing into space thinking about nothing. It's more of a thought process of thinking about the piece you're working on and visualizing the finshed piece. Not the piece you had last night........ Now, did I make myself perfectly clear?

Wayne

I guess it depends on the brand and formula, and the country in which you find yourself. I don't think the brands of CA made and sold here in the US have changed. I've been using Bob Smith Industries products for years, and they seem the same today as when I first accidentally glued fingers together back around 1989

Prost!
Brad

The hard part is not tapping my feet to whatever is playing. Does no good for steadiness.

Then quit playing hillbilly music.

There is no other!

Thanks Ron ,managed to pickup some out of date stuff from my onetime base timber supplier for free and it works

O

Oh my god!!! Never listen to that.

The guy gave it away saying it was duff but it was OK and better than the seven pound Gorilla shit that B&Q sold me

You should have gone to the pound shop that,s where I get mine and I,ve never had any trouble

You tappa you feet while painting....I breaka you face, and then you toes........I shitta you not!

Wayne

You beat me to it, Pete. I've been convinced for years that the Poundland and £6 Araldite two-part epoxy is the same stuff. I've compared the tubes, I also once (sad, I know) compared the instructions on the packet. The same, word for word.

If I have to use superglue, then I normally choose Roket Cyno Gel which I source from Historex Agents in the UK.
https://historexagents.com/#

Other than that, I use locally bought 2-part epoxy that sets in under 5-minutes. It provides a really strong bond - but tends to stink to high heaven for an hour or two until fully cured.
The local superglue is pretty useless and only good for tacking parts together before backing up with gel or epoxy.

Yeah, here in the US, Bob Smith Industries produces CA and epoxy glues, some sold under its own label, some sold under different retail labels, like the HobbyTown hobby shop chain. So you could buy a bottle of a specific brand's CA glue, but look at the label and see it was produced by BSI.

Prost!
Brad