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Steel Helmet Quiz Part II

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by Martin Rohmann, Aug 22, 2021.

  1. Martin Rohmann A Fixture

    Country:
    Germany
    The German steel helmet was pretty widespread around the world!

    There are a multitude of armies in foreign countries that have carried it or are still carrying.

    Soldiers of which states can be seen in the pictures ...?

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    A.

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    B.

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    C:

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    D.

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    E.

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    F.

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    G.

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    H.

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    Cheers
  2. akaryu PlanetFigure Supporter

    Country:
    Belgium
    Tricky!

    A ?
    B Bolivia
    C Chili
    D Chinese nationalist republic
    E Afghan Kingdom
    F Dominican republic
    G Finland
    H Croatia

    Pierre
  3. Airkid PlanetFigure Supporter

    Country:
    England
    A - Bulgaria
    B - Bolivia
    C- Peru
    D- Nationalist China
    E- Albania
    F- Dominican Rep
    G- Finland WW2 era
    H- Croatia

    Yep, tough
  4. Martin Rohmann A Fixture

    Country:
    Germany
    A
    B Bolivia jep!
    C Chili jep!
    D Chinese nationalist republic jep!
    E Afghan Kingdom no!
    F Dominican republic jep!
    G Finland jep!
    H Croatia jep!

    Not bad, Pierre!


    Cheers
  5. Martin Rohmann A Fixture

    Country:
    Germany
    New A - Bulgaria no!
    B - Bolivia jep
    C- Peru no
    D- Nationalist China jep
    E- Albania no
    F- Dominican Rep jep
    G- Finland WW2 era jep
    H- Croatia jep


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    ... and E

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    ... are still to be solved! Whereby "E" is something very special ...


    Cheers
  6. akaryu PlanetFigure Supporter

    Country:
    Belgium
    A very wild guess:

    E Northcaucasian pro-German troops?

    Pierre
  7. Martin Rohmann A Fixture

    Country:
    Germany
    Nope! More western...:sneaky:


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  8. akaryu PlanetFigure Supporter

    Country:
    Belgium
    Toting a FAL SLR, while his comrades in the double page photo are cradling their PPSh?

    Some kind of German Grenzschutz? I'll have to throw my towel in the ring and go for a stiff drink , I'm afraid!

    Pierre
  9. Airkid PlanetFigure Supporter

    Country:
    England
    E - Ukrainian? A- Daghestan or somewhere out that way?
  10. arj A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    A:- Afghanistan, Cadets of New Islamic Army
    E:- ???
  11. Martin Rohmann A Fixture

    Country:
    Germany
    A:- Afghanistan, Cadets of New Islamic Army jep!
    E:- ???

    Look here...:

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    Look at the weapons and the flags background of the pics above!

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  12. Chrisr PlanetFigure Supporter

    Country:
    Australia
    The new Bundeswehr post Second World War????? Pure guess.
  13. akaryu PlanetFigure Supporter

    Country:
    Belgium
    E Bereitschaftspolizei DDR
  14. Nap A Fixture

    Country:
    England
    Blimey .....great quiz ....clever folk here on PF !

    Nap
  15. Martin Rohmann A Fixture

    Country:
    Germany

    Both not quite right!

    It is the helmet with which members of the so-called "Barracked People's Police" ("Kasernierte Volkspolizei"/KVP) were equipped...:

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    The name of these troops was a euphemism because in reality it was the GDR army before there was an official army!

    The KVP members were militarily trained and also had heavy weapons, as handguns they carried a hodgepodge of everything that was available in the early days - including the "Sturmgewehr 44" of the former Hitler Wehrmacht...

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    ... until they were equipped with Soviet Union weapons (PPSh 2)...:

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    As a helmet they got the so-called "Stahlhelm M 1954", a development of the former Wehrmacht from the years 1943-45, which was tested as one of several variants to replace the Stahlhelm M 1943, since material could be saved in the production (due to the reduced side and neck parts and the shortened visor)!

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    This helmet was called the "Kessler bomb" by the soldiers - after the first GDR defense minister, Armeegeneral Heinz Kessler...:

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    The "Kessler bomb" was ONLY carried by members of the KVP - and during a very short transition period by the first soldiers of the "Nationale Volksarmee" (NVA) of the GDR.

    That's why there are extremely few photos of it!

    In the beginning, the KVP soldiers (as well as the police) still wore grey uniforms according to the Russian cut...

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    ... however (at the suggestion of the Soviet military administration!) They very quickly switched to uniforms according to the "German" pattern, of which the Soviets increased by hoped for volunteers (there was no conscription yet!)...:

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    This also happened immediately!

    The NVA soldiers were then very quickly equipped with the well known M 1956 steel helmet...

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    ... which had also been developed by the Hitler army.

    The GDR soldiers wore this helmet (which was slightly changed several times, but never changed in appearance!) until the fall of their state.
    For parades and marches, they were also given an exact plastic copy of this helmet, which was significantly lighter...:

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    Both helmet models (M 1954 and M 1956) were designed to overcome two fundamental shortcomings of the traditional German helmet:

    The low side shields impaired the wearer's hearing, and the neck guard made shooting lying down problematic as the back edge of the helmet hit the neck, sometimes causing the helmet to slip over the eyes.

    As said, a very special German helmet model...


    Cheers
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  16. Nap A Fixture

    Country:
    England
    Martin

    Absolutely fascinating info on the helmets....great research as in your great WIP/SBS threads

    Nap
  17. akaryu PlanetFigure Supporter

    Country:
    Belgium
    That was a tough one!

    Pierre
  18. akaryu PlanetFigure Supporter

    Country:
    Belgium
    This trio doesn't look very happy or excited to be there! Come and have fun, join the Volksarmee! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
  19. Martin Rohmann A Fixture

    Country:
    Germany
    The photo comes from a demonstration by former members of the NVA long after the end of the GDR - on May 9, 2013!
    Afterwards they all got into trouble with the state authorities because they had worn "forbidden" uniforms in public.

    You can tell from their faces that they know that.

    The "service face" on official occasions during the existence of the GDR looked like this ...:

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    But I don't think it was really fun there ...

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