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WIP Critique Soldier bust (Untitled, 200mm, 1/9)

Discussion in 'Sculpting' started by kaz6120, Feb 8, 2012.

  1. kaz6120 A Fixture

    Another sculpting project, young male soldier bust. Scale is 200mm. It looks like a female face to me yet, its hard for me to tell the difference between young male face and female face. Anyone gimme a hint?

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  2. Renéduret Well-Known Member

    No, looks perfect Kaz.

    a perfect androgyne kaukasian soldier. Kidding.

    well depicted juvenile here in a way the painter can make the difference.

    trust your feelings.

  3. garyjd Well-Known Member

    The head looks to be sitting high above the clavicals. That is unless you want the figure to have a long neck. ~Gary
  4. Renéduret Well-Known Member

    it's just a setting I suppose. The question was about the face, though I like the clavicals already being mounted this way.

    Kaz, if you are insecure, add a temperarely moustache or widen the jaw section a bit.
  5. kaz6120 A Fixture

    Thanks a lot for your comments and critiques, René and Gary!

    LOL! Thanks I will try to make it a little bit more manly face.

    Gary, thanks a lot for your advice, yes you are right it is sitting high. I will make it short in the next step.
  6. kaz6120 A Fixture

    Yes head wiere is just sticking in the hole. not glued yet.
    Thanks thats a nice idea. widen jaw will be a nice addition.
  7. RKapuaala Active Member

    Looks like a male approximately 15 to 18 years of age. If I met a girl like that, I would have to look under her skirt to make sure she wasn't putting me on :lol:
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  8. Pops Active Member

    Why not model a female? That would be a great way of acknowledging all those who have served, particularly out on Ops in Iraq and Afghanistan...
  9. kaz6120 A Fixture

    Thanks a lot for your comment Richard and David!

    Not this time but I will for sure.
  10. Einion Well-Known Member

    Great start Kaz, looking forward to seeing how this progresses.

    Sometimes there isn't much difference, to the point that hairstyle might be the main thing that makes you guess one way or another.

    The main facial characteristics for sexual differentiation lie in the skull, the key one being whether there is a noticeable brow ridge - this being far more common with men than women (to the point where in archaeological digs if you don't see one it's often assumed to be a woman until they reach the pelvis). The jaw is the other main thing, where greater width and robustness as well as a chin that's more prominent (wider too) will usually point to it being a man.

    Beyond the gross physical structure you can simply use the heaviness of the eyebrow and any beard shadow to tip the balance firmly in favour of male.

    FWIW, I read this as unquestionably male as it stands, from all angles.

  11. gordy Well-Known Member

    Excellent work Kaz! (y)

    Definitely male.

    Front on, the glabella on a female is much broader. In profile, the supraorbital ridge is more pronounced in a male, like you have in your sculpt.

    Here is a helpful slideshare.

    Keep us posted on the progress!
  12. kaz6120 A Fixture

    Thanks a lot Einion and gordy for your helpful comments.

    Gordy thanks a lot for the references, especially slideshare. This is the best reference to see the difference of male and female bone structure. Thanks!

    As you guys said, supraorbital ridge and jaw shape are important elements. I will sculpt it again around these areas.
  13. Gellso A Fixture

    That's excellent.
    He definitely looks male from the side photo.
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  14. MattS Active Member


    Nice sculpt. I might also suggest more mass to the forehead. It looks to slope back a bit too much as noted in the 3/4 view. Maybe thinning the upper lip a bit, too. Also, more volume on the masseter muscle would also help to look more masculine. Nice job, so far.

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  15. jikisai Member

    Hi Kazufumi,

    I have read on a scientific magazine that we distinguish mele and female especially by eyebrow line. That was unexpected fact for me.

    Female eyebrow is generally more curving than male's.

    But perhaps this point have no effect on sculpting...and I think you may know that already because you have great painting skill.
  16. gothicgeek A Fixture

    Looks male to me :)

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