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Discussion in 'Market & Commissions' started by Nap, Aug 1, 2020.

  1. Bradley Burrell New Member

    Please email me what you’re keen on!
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  2. yellowcat A Fixture

    Hi Bradley,

    Please clarify:

    1. All kits are shipped from South Africa.

    2. Prices are in US dollar

    3. Final price per parcel is Kit price +$10 Handling fee per package + $1 per 100g of weight + shipping cost from South Africa post office.
    But on Facebook Handling fee is $3 + $2 per 100g.


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  3. Bradley Burrell New Member

    Hi Felix, that is all correct. The prices are in dollars to make it easier for international buyers. Nobody knows what a Rand is worth lol.

    Last point I would make is please chat to me to figure whatever isn’t clear out. Whether that be condition or prices especially in the form of multiple miniatures in a batch.

    Attached is the exact shipping costs. US$1 = ZAR17.

    Thanks! 180CA196-11B6-43F2-A1E4-EECF45E5B7FB.png
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  4. TERRYSOMME1916 A Fixture

    Hi Guys does anyone know how much we will get hit for by Royal Mail if a kit comes from SA into UK?
  5. Babelfish A Fixture

    Terry, presumably you'd be asked to pony up the 20% VAT rate that gets added to anything from outside the EU, plus ParcelFarce's "handling" fee. That was 8 quid the last time I got stung, but has been known to be as much as 13 quid (it all seems a bit arbitrary and random to me).

    I think I'm also right in saying that the taxman now considers the shipping that you paid to the seller to be part of your item's "value". So for example if you paid $50 for the item plus $10 shipping, you will be charged VAT on the full $60. A tad unfair but unavoidable unfortunately, HMRC have you by the balls.

    Of course there is also a chance that your package would slip through unmolested, and you wouldn't get stung at all. In my experience that seems to happen more with stuff from some countries than from others, although I have no idea about South Africa as I have never ordered anything from that part of the world.

    Hope that helps.

    - Steve

    PS @Bradley: Good luck with your selling and welcome to pF.
  6. TERRYSOMME1916 A Fixture

    Thanks Steve, didn't want to here that, I have been stung a few times from different parts of the world and it takes the good feeling away from finding that kit that you have been searching for, however we now have the metal rot that I was totally unaware off, what do you look for and is it terminal or just on the surface, what causes it, can it be removed with wire wool etc, can anyone offer advise on that.
  7. Bradley Burrell New Member

    Terry, if you are referring to the rot that was discovered on one of the miniatures it is best to mention that kit was painted and then stripped. That miniature has been removed completely and I go through them more carefully with each individual buyer!

    The shipping at this point might cause some headaches. I’m still trying to see what can be figured out if anything at all.
  8. TERRYSOMME1916 A Fixture

    Hi Brad no I am not aware of rot on one of your figures, the rot thing is completely new to me, a thing that I was not aware off, I have a small stash of white metal kits and I am worried that they could be contaminated, so I don't know what to look out for and if this makes the kit unusable.
    The postage thing is going to have to be paid no matter what but its the Customs add on that blows the price out of the water in many cases.
    I will email you again later.
  9. grasshopper A Fixture

    Engage with Yellowcat who is quite knowledgeable on rot..it’s a corrosion and can vary from a white powdery surface Thru dark egregious pitting that can’t be fixed..it’s not a contamination any more than rust on a car..but I’ve found can be exacerbated by heat and humidity..as for shipping and other burdens: it’s expensive everywhere exacerbated by reduced air travel, and new protocols in sort facilities, more customs inspections ..if there is something you want, suck it up and do it. Yesterday I bought a 35 euro piece from Scientific Models and shipping is 28..plus there will be tax..the good side, it’s DHL shipping which most little guys can’t avail..and I will have it very soon..vs a piece from Spain that was sent a month ago and is on a ship somewhere
  10. TERRYSOMME1916 A Fixture

    Useful info grasshopper, those spanish ships are a curse, there was one called the Gerona crashed into our coast line a lot of years ago but at least we got a couple of Canons off it lol.
  11. Bradley Burrell New Member

    My shipping woes took me passed DHL, they wanted $60 for a box not much bigger than the standard Poste Militaire boxes. It’s crazy. Hopefully my post office opens soon, as they’re the only competitor service in SA.
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  12. arj A Fixture

    Felix (yellowcat) covered dealing with sticky resin and lead rot earlier this year:-

  13. yellowcat A Fixture


    For UK tax and custom. Check out this link:

    Basically any parcel assessed as being liable for Customs charges will also incur a Royal Mail handling fee of £8. Any goods imported into the UK over the value of £15 are liable to import VAT. Gifts between private individuals over the value of £39 are also liable for VAT.

    For US tax and customs. Check out this link:

    International Postal Service:Merchandise shipped through the international postal service is forwarded upon its arrival in the United States to one of U.S. Customs and Border Protection International Mail Branches for clearance. If the item is less than $2,000 in value and is not subject to a quota or is not a restricted or prohibited item, a CBP official will usually prepare the paperwork for importing it, assess the proper duty, and release it for delivery. This procedure is generally referred to as a mail entry. Packages whose declared value is under $800 ($100 if being sent as a gift to someone other than the purchaser) will generally be cleared without any additional paperwork prepared by CBP. However, CBP always reserves the right to require a formal entry for any importation and generally exercises this option if there is something unusual about the importation, or if important documents such as an invoice or bill of sale do not accompany the item.
    If any duty is owed, CBP will charge a processing fee for clearing your package. Duty and the processing fee are usually paid at your local post office, where your package is forwarded.

    For Canada tax and customs.

    Basically any item mail to Canada may be subject to GST and or duty will also incur a Canadian Post handling fee of CAN$9.95. Any goods imported into the Canada over the value of $20 are liable to GST and PST. Gifts from family members and friends over the value of CAN$60 are also liable for all the customs and taxes..

    For DHL DHL will charge transaction fee, processing fee and brokerage fee.

    ........And when your parcel arrive, you may need to deal with lead disease, sticky resin, missing and broken parts.

    Good luck to your purchase.

  14. Bradley Burrell New Member

    This may be a dumb question but what stops me from declaring all figures as being worth less than £35?
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  15. grasshopper A Fixture

    If you get inspected, it’s a fairly big deal to be essentially making false declarations
  16. Bradley Burrell New Member

    Fair enough but how would they know? It’s all second hand and the payment is made privately? Also it wouldn’t be a big deficit. The average price is like £40, so essentially it would be only slightly less.
  17. grasshopper A Fixture

    Do understand that I can’t advise on this..
  18. Bradley Burrell New Member

    Yeah of course I’m just speculating.
  19. grasshopper A Fixture

    I often understate a bit the value of a gift parcel so as to reduce chance of recipient being hit with fees for a present..but those are one offs vs quite a slug..I still say, if someone finds an item they want and images you provide confirm condition, they should just suck it up and buy the thing..free shipping and free lunches..unicorns at best
  20. Bradley Burrell New Member

    I agree completely, I’m even willing to work on the price to make it easier especially on larger batches (of 10 or so where the shipping will be terrible).

    But if all else fails, I will wait for the post office to open. That should make it a win-win for everyone involved.
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