Samurai Archer

Discussion in 'vBench (Works in Progress)' started by Le Lancier, Nov 13, 2004.

  1. Le Lancier Member

    Country:
    Canada
    I have just begun a new project. Here is what it is in detail. I'll keep you posted on my progress.

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  2. Kisifer Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Greece
    That's a nice kit Francis.. i will keep an eye on your progress.
  3. MSzwarc New Member

    Francis,

    I just got this kit myself. I'm interested to see what you do with it. The detailing is nice, but the flagstones on the base seem small. I like the use of the raked gravel, though.

    Mike
  4. Le Lancier Member

    Country:
    Canada
    Hi Mike, and Kisifer,

    Well, no pressure here ;) I feel like I'm being watched hehehe.

    Well, mike, the kit is alright. So far, I've primed the body and cleaned mold lines from some parts. The bow is extremely delicate. The task of removing mold lines from it is very demanding. I've had to reshape the bow a few times. Among the armor plates fitted to the waist of the figure, the rear one will necessitate quite a bit of work. The cordon around the waist of the samurai is tied on the lower back. The ends of the cordon are molded on that armor plate whereas the rest of the cordon is molded around the waist. There is a clear gap in the cord at the point where the armor plate joins with the body. Something which will have to be reworked with the old epoxy putty... :(
  5. Roc Active Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Francis,bon jour mon ami, very beautiful kit,I know you will do a good job, looking forward to seeing it painted. ;)


    Aurevoir

    Roc :)
  6. Guy A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    I am glad that you are doing this figure Francis, I was wondering how it looked detail wise as I thought about ordering it. I look forward to seeing you bring it alive with your brushes.
  7. mikec55 Active Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Francis--I have this guy also but he isn't even primed yet so it'll be fun to watch over your shoulder. I bought the Andrea English crossbowman
    (the one who sorta resembles Wayne Gretzky) at the same time & it's interesting that you're having to do some refitting & filling. I've had the same problem with the crossbowman. I've painted 3 or 4 Andrea figures & so far, only the samurai archer & the crossbowman seem to need help with fitting everything together. Good luck with the archer.
    Mike
  8. Le Lancier Member

    Country:
    Canada
    Thanx everyone for your words of encouragement. It seems that this particular figure has a circle of admirers. Well, Here's where i'm at as far as assembly is concerned. Note the second picture, I've pointed the problem areas I've found so far. Waiting for my first application of putty to dry before attempting anything else.

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    Any of you guys have the Warriors and Warlords volume by Angus McBride? There is a magnificient illustration of samurai archers on horse back repelling a Mongol invasion. This work of art is quite inspiring for the colours i will be choosing for my project.

    Hey Mike, did you mean this crossbowman?

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    If so, it appears we have similar tastes in figures :)

    Francis
  9. jasonballamy Member

    You may be interested in this thread from Lilliput Forum where Augie has made some corrections to the basic kit.

    if you copy this link in to a translator such as Babblefish and translate from spanish to English it may be easier to follow for the non Spanish speaking members.

    http://www.lilliputmodel.com/foro_discusio...p?showtopic=330

    Jason
  10. Le Lancier Member

    Country:
    Canada
    Thx Jason,

    Man, this guy is doing some extensive mods on this figure. Well, I don't think I will go that far. I was already planing to modify the bow, since it lacked the ringed reinforcements along its length. The ample sleeves and the cords added to the right side of the archers armor are interesting mods. I think I'll look into that. Thanks a million for the link. It's unfortunate that M.Rodriguez never finished his article on the matter though. :(
  11. Le Lancier Member

    Country:
    Canada
    So this is what I've found so far, based on M. Rodrigez's findings.

    Yes, the right arm of the archer is too close to the body, Japanese archers held their pulling arm away from their bodies as shown on these pictures;

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    Notice also that the bow is held leaning forward, away from the archers head. Unlike the figures bow, which is leaning towards the archer. Hopefully, this is something I can remedy.
  12. jasonballamy Member

    Yes it's a shame Augie has not posted anymore progress shots of this figure, he often has several projects on the go at one time and will leave one untouched for several months, a fresh post may well be worthwhile to see if any more progress has been made. I have not had much correspondance with him lately as I have been doing very little painting.

    Should you have any questions about this figure or samurai in general, Augie is the man to ask, he has a vast knowledge of the subject.

    I agree that the bow is in the wrong position as well as being the wrong shape.



    Jason
  13. mikec55 Active Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Yep, that's him. Wayne Gretzky armed & dangerous :eek: . I should be done with him in another month or so. In the dryfitting process, his shield, (I forget it's proper name) quiver & sword won't fit together on the figure w/o a little creative positioning. The small piece of chainmail hanging beneath his tunic on the front wasn't a real smooth fit either. On the plus side, the cocking mechanism doesn't seem to be a problem.

    Mike
  14. Le Lancier Member

    Country:
    Canada
    Hi Mike,

    The shield in question is called a pavis, I believe. If you like this type of figure, Pegaso and White Models offer similar kits at a larger scale. I've had the pleasure of painting Pegaso's offering, a 90mm white metal beauty;

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    White Model's offering is also quite stunning:

    http://www.masterclass.it/whitemodels/imag...enary-sc350.jpg

    Hopefully, I can get my hands on the latter some day. ;)
  15. Le Lancier Member

    Country:
    Canada
    Well, this baby ends up being more of a challenge than I thought. Lots of changes to be made.

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    Here, the right arm has been cut at the rist and oposite the elbow in order to realign properly


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    The preassembled figure, both arms have been repositioned, the bow reshaped. Now, to remodel the sleeves to give them more volume. And all I wanted to do is paint the thing, aaarrrggg!!!! :angry: :lol:
  16. ChenLa New Member

    Country:
    Estonia
    I think only the right sleeve it is necessary to increase. Left in an oversleeve - "kote". Look Tokyo Custume Museum: http://www.iz2.or.jp/english/fukusyoku/wayou/36.htm
    If it is interesting, I can put to myself on a server of a picture with different coloring of an armour. Excuse for bad English, I use online translator.
  17. ChenLa New Member

    Country:
    Estonia
  18. MSzwarc New Member

    Vyacheslav,

    Thanks for posting the link and for sharing the wonderful folder of samurai armor pictures! These are excellent resources (y) .

    Mike
  19. Le Lancier Member

    Country:
    Canada
    Thank you very much, Vyacheslav, for the great pictures. These give me a whole load of inspiration. (y)

    Regards
    Francis
  20. ChenLa New Member

    Country:
    Estonia
    I am glad, if have helped you ;)

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