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Russian Sailor

Discussion in 'vBench (Works in Progress)' started by Dan Morton, Oct 21, 2005.

  1. Dan Morton A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    I've just started this one. 120mm of the Russian sailor in landing uniform pictured in illustration E3 of the Osprey Russo-Japanese War. Pretty close to the same pose although the face is in a different position. I can already see a correction needed on the right side of his cap. Not quite big enough on that side.

    I had the tunic and arms finished and they just didn't look right - cut them off leaving the boots and trousers and ready to go again.

    Very rough at this stage. Comments?
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    All the best,
    Dan
  2. garyjd Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Dan, I love the plates in that book, you really can't go wrong basing a figure on any of those shown in the plates. Two things, be careful that his neck is not too long and his shoulders too low. I like the ideas of the folds in the boots. I would make the folds a bit sharper. You're putting the folds where they need to be except they appear to have a rounded look about them, with a lot looking like slices made in the putty. I'll have another look later, just got off of 3rd shift at 7AM and it's past my bedtime.LOL~Gary
  3. reftwo2 New Member

    The figure is far too long in the torso. The head looks good; has it been scratchbuilt?
  4. btavis Active Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Dan, before you get too far along on this take a look at how I modified the overall dimensions.

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  5. Dan Morton A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    Lazo - Thanks for the comment. I've no idea where the head came from. It was part of a e-Bay parts buy of 120mm pieces, heads, hands, you name it. But I agree it is a good-looking head. It was a WW2 head - I removed the US helmet and that was about it.

    Bob - I'm going to take a section out of the waist and a very small amount out of the neck. Actually I think I have the neck mounted a little wrong. The neck bottom was angular and set up to go into a rather deep recess in the figure, I think. Both should be relatively easy to fix. The rest of the changes you indicate can take place during the sculpting. Have you seen the illustration I'm working from?

    Also - on the Japanese soldier - I've corrected (I think) just about everything you pointed out earlier and will re-post some pics this weekend. Have the field equipment about 2/3rds done also.

    All the best,
    Dan
  6. Roy New Member

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Hi Dan, looking forward to seeing the figure with the alterations...it's a good looking uniform to sculpt...and Dan, it looks like that head was made for the job.

    I've attached the pic from which Dan has based his figure. The whole book is filled with very inspiring artwork by Andrei Karachtchouk....osprey MAA 414.

    All the best....Roy.

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  7. Dan Morton A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    Gulp...yes, Roy that's the one, but I'm always reluctant to post scans of the illustrations from Osprey books because of the copyright restrictions. Without permission, PF might get in a 'spot of bother'. Do we have any lawyers (or in UK solicitors/barristers) that are PFers that could advise us on copyright issues?

    Andrei Karachtchouk is my favorite Osprey illustrator with Mike Chappell running a close second.

    It IS an interesting uniform, isn't it? I'm in the process of re-doing his hat because I can't get the piping defined the way I want it. I found a great Russian militaria site that had one of the imperial cocades as well as Soviet era sailor hats. Looks like the only thing the Soviets changed in the hat was to remove the cocade and replace it with the red star and 2 gold leaves and to possibly change the color of the hat piping.

    On the subject of fascinating and inspiring illustrations, may I recommend John Laffin's book The Western Front Illustrated 1914-1918, ISBN 0750914386, Alan Sutton publishing, 1991? Fortunino Matania, R. Caton Woodville, J. Simont, Georges Scott, and S. Begg are just some of the illustrators. You'll enjoy it! As I said in an earlier post about the book, there's a potential diorama on every other page.

    All the best,
    Dan
  8. Roy New Member

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    United-Kingdom
    You mention what seem some very nice titles there Dan....I will keep a look out for them...
    As for the scan...I'm sure I read in the site rules that pictures were allowed if due reference was given to the owner/artist....if it does break any rules though, I'm sure it will be removed quick smart.....followed swiftly by my apologies to all concerned.

    Still looking forward to seeing how you get on Dan..

    All the best....Roy.
  9. Dan Morton A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    Russian Imperial Navy Seaman in landing uniform, 1904-1905 Russo-Japanese war
    120mm or 1/15th scale
    The head is from TLB. The Mosin Nagant rifle is Verlinden from the Soviet weapons pack. Don't remember where the bayonet came from. The bollard is Verlinden from the WW2 German seaman figure kit. The wharf is balsa wood on plastic card. The rest you can blame on me.

    The head was very good to begin with, but I wanted to add some 'attitude'. The longer hair, shaggy eyebrows and goatee combine to make him look a little 'Bolshey', I thought. I sculpted the sea gull as an afterthought to make the little diorama look more 'nautical'. If you look closely you'll notice that the gull has made many 'contributions' to the scene, down the side of the bollard, on the wharf, etc. I thought seriously for about 20 seconds about mounting the gull on the seaman's shoulder. NAH! No self-respecting Russian seaman would stand for that would they? The wharf rope is cotton package tying twine, heavily glued down with white glue to add 'weight'.

    Equipment
    - Black M1872 sailor cap with white piping and Russian Imperial Cockade , name of ship [battleship Pobeda] on black silk cap tally, cap tally pinned at back, ends of tally have yellow anchor emblem
    - Dark blue M1882 flannel pullover type tunic with separate collar. Collar has 3 white stripes on collar edges
    - Black flannel trousers tucked into high black leather boots
    - M1891 Mosin Nagant 7.62 mm rifle with ersatz canvas rifle sling, bayonet fixed
    - Two black leather ammunition pouches on M 1898 naval leather belt sling

    MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!

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    As always, critique and comments very welcome!

    All the best,
    Dan
  10. yeo_64 Active Member

    Country:
    Singapore
    VERY NICE,Dan (y) (y) !!! The seagull is certainly an inspired touch ! Cheers.
    Kenneth :lol: .
  11. Dan Morton A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    Thanks Kenneth! Actually I was thinking about your use of birds and other animals when I decided to try sculpting the seagull.

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

    All the best,
    Dan
  12. megroot A Fixture

    Country:
    Netherlands
    Dan,

    I have nothing more to say then you did a tremendous great Sculpt.

    Marc
  13. Jim Patrick Active Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Dan, very nice work! I like how you take the "odd" subject and make a terrific figure out of it. Nice to see someone not following that "well worn path". Keep up the nice work.

    Jim Patrick
  14. Dan Morton A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    Marc and Jim - Merci and many thanks!

    Jim, I don't exactly strive for the unusual, but some off-beat things do inspire me to try to capture them. There's a reason why I can afford to be a little different in my choice of subject. Commercialism. Sorry, can't prove it but I think it's true. Sameness in terms of subject creates comfort for the manufacturer. All other things being equal a manufacturer can be certain that a 1/35th scale SS figure will sell much better than any of my 120mm thingies. I don't mind because I have no interest in making figures for sale - for now, at least.

    In the instance of the RJ war figures, it was clearly Andrei Karachtchouk's superb illustrations in Osprey MAA 414 that hooked me. Remarkable, clear, well-detailed and with a spark of real genius! The illustrations, not my stuff!!!! :lol:

    Some of the illustrations in John Laffin's book, The Western Front Illustrated, make me want to translate them into figures and dioramas. One or two in particular that I definitely will do in the future!

    Reading Leonard Sellers, "The Hood Battalion" also got me charged up. If you want a well-written WWI unit history plus memoirs plus a good discussion of command and control issues at battalion/company level - it's a good read. Right after that I found two or three illustrations off the web that further sparked my interest - so now I'm working on a little diorama of the Royal Naval Division in Antwerp 1914.

    Another figure I'm working on is taken from an illustrated newspaper photo of the period and was sent to me by Ross Mahoney in UK. I think I've posted the photo elsewhere. It's a Belgian Chasseur a cheval standing on his horse's saddle, holding a street sign in one hand and a pair of field glasses in the other. Pretty cool. That one probably has lots more sales potential than anything I've ever done before. I could see a lot of painters throwing money down to buy it - IF - I can pull it off!!!! BIG IF for me!

    Anyway, I really appreciate the positive reinforcement guys!

    All the best,
    Dan
  15. Calvin Member

    Dan, great work on the figure and on the setting too. The seagull is simply fantastic, above all the way it seems to walk. Such little details makes a great improvement, without speaking about the difficulty to sculpt something not human.
  16. garyjd Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Dan, Neat figure. As a suggestion, put a more time into armature construction and proportions. This is a critical part of the sculpting process and even if the remainder of the figure is top notch, it cannot camouflage an improperly proportioned figure. Keep going, I love these "oddball" subjects.~Gary
  17. Dan Morton A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    Many thanks Luca and Gary!

    Luca - for me, it's all about a little different approach and trying to tell some kind of little story. And thanks for noticing that the seagull is waddling a bit. I wondered if anyone would see that.

    Gary - After Lazo and Bob both pointed out the out of scale height of the initial figure, I scaled @ 1/16th a 5'11" version of the anatomical line drawing that Einion posted. (I think it was him, wasn't it?) At the same time I did that for several different actual heights. Surprisingly easy with Photoshop.

    Then I measured the figure carefully, cut it to proper size and carried on. The lengths of arms and legs, neck, torso, etc. all compare favorably with the anatomical line drawing. Anyway, this version is 112mm in height, not quite 5'11" in full size. As I made the legs and arms I measured carefully with wire straight and then again with wire bent and again, they fit. The torso is 38 - 42mm and the legs are 60 - 65mm. Measuring against the anatomical chart, I think that's about right. The legs appear a little too long, but not much and not so much (to my eyes) that they look distorted or out of proportion. I'm kinda a long-legged guy myself!

    I'm learning all the time. There is still much you guys can teach me, however! Thanks for all the support and help!

    All the best,
    Dan
  18. Alex Lopez Active Member

    Country:
    Mexico
    GOOD WORK MY FRIED!! the anatomy work is better than the last.

    Regards.
  19. Dan Morton A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    Many thanks, Alex! Positive reinforcement from someone with as much skill as yourself means a lot to me!

    All the best,
    Dan


    MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!

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