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Roman Tribune EVD

Discussion in 'Figure News' started by Edorta, Nov 30, 2022.

  1. Edorta A Fixture

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  2. Redcap A Fixture

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    A very nice and elegant figure.
    Gary
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  3. Blind Pew A Fixture

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    This is a nice release. Slightly unusual these days to see one in 54mm
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  4. Bundook Active Member

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    Very nice impression. Looks it was heavily inspired by the marble relief of soldiers (usually described as Praetorians) now in the Louvre (trusty space filler in every coffee table book on the Romans).
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  5. Nap A Fixture

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    Not my thing with the legs but certainly a elegant and nicely detailed release

    Certainly paints up well

    Thanks for sharing Edorta

    Nap
  6. Martin Antonenko A Fixture

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    A Roman tribune - only real with curtain tassels on his coat!:confused:

    There was something like that years ago - and just as wrong!

    [IMG]


    Cheers
  7. Edorta A Fixture

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    Hi Martin, the one you show up, is not a tribune, is a praetorian centurion. Pretorian Centurion - PegasoWorld
    Some artists represent these capes with fringes and tassels, probably so that the garment would gain weight and not billow so much in the wind.

    Anyway, there is no evidence that the "Paludamentum" (officer cape) did not bear ornaments or tassels.

    Look at the figures at these ilustrations.

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  8. Bundook Active Member

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    Scotland
    I'd be wary of making any such concrete pronouncements about ancient military equipment. Roman military cloaks of all types are clearly shown with such tassels in many contemporary representations. Look at the column reliefs from Mainz for a great example [attached]. They also appear passim all over Trajan's column and in other reliefs.


    Mainz.jpg

    I'd be more worried about the three silly leather straps hanging down over his groin. The zona is OK, as that's well attested in Roman art, but not the straps as well. [Edit: (after I looked at the Louvre relief again) The figures at the front of the Louvre relief are modern "reconstructions", anyway, so there's no telling really what they originally looked like. The central figure at the front wears what is usually interpreted as officer's dress.]
  9. Bundook Active Member

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    Blast it! I quoted myself correcting myself. :nailbiting:
  10. harrytheheid A Fixture

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    EVD offer some impressive figures in their Roman range. This latest release is another one.
  11. Martin Antonenko A Fixture

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    Sry, but fringes and crepe folds are different from the curtain tassels.

    Also he wears the wrong shoes (must be calcii), and pteryges over the cuirass are also wrong.

    Moreover, the purple stripes of a tribune on the tunica were vertical and thin and not horizontal and wide

    Cheers
  12. sd0324 PlanetFigure Supporter

    I love a good Roman accuracy argument. Especially when it's a really cool figure being reviewed.


    Steve
  13. Steve Ski A Fixture

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    Does it really matter, gimme a break, Martin!

    Excellent sculpt I say, Bravo!
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  14. Edorta A Fixture

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    Thanks for your effort Martin, but I disagree.

    This tribune wears:

    The braccae (trousers), worn in colder climates.
    Lorica musculata armor that reproduced the chest musculature, reserved for higher ranks
    In cold weather he could perfectly change his calcei (shoes), for boots of German origin.
    The ribbon around the breastplate indicating his rank is correct.
    Although what he wears on his cape are tassels, you should know that tassels have been a symbol of prestige and power through the years. Tassels were worn by priests and military officers in ancient times.
  15. Babelfish A Fixture

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    Generally speaking, the further back into history we go, the more gaps there are in the historical record so the more things are open to interpretation, misinterpretation and best-guessing in order to fill in the gaps. And it will always be thus until someone comes up with a working time machine.

    Until then, swearing blind that this-or-that was never worn/carried or whatever, or that stripes on a particular garment would only have been of a certain colour and/or thickness etc. etc. etc. is a fool's errand. Personally I think this is a very nice, striking little figure and arguably one of the best that EVD have put out in a while.

    - Steve
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  16. Martin Antonenko A Fixture

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    Germany
    If you like, we can discuss this outside of the forum - because I can see from the reactions of others that this discussion is not wanted here. OK?
    (That doesn't mean I retract my criticism, though.)


    Cheers
  17. Redcap A Fixture

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    United-Kingdom
    Never say "Never" where the Roman Army is concerned!
    Gaz

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