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Raymond de Puy

Discussion in 'vBench (Works in Progress)' started by rej, Jun 4, 2007.

  1. rej Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Malta
    Hi to all.........

    The kit in question for this major conversion is Soldiers' Templar Knight 90mm of some time ago.......infact the mould must have got some beatings as the flash was so evident on almost all parts........If my mind was not set for this conversion for quite a while, I would soon have made it up to convert as there were really bad flash lines even on the mail covered legs.........

    What I did was to accumulate all the conversion pics and post them all at once instead of driving everyone crazy in waiting for my snail pace :(

    I relied mainly on Ivan our local Hospitaller expert and Osprey's Warrior Series Knight Hospitaller No1 for the info........

    Raymond de Puy, the 2nd Rector of the Order of the Knight Hospitallers of St.John, "militarised" the Order, so my caption on the finished piece would be "Let Us Be Soldiers"........I plan to write this in Latin if I find a priest kind enough to translate that for me ;).......he would be holding the sword in his right hand as per kit (scratchbuilt item), and holding the Holy Bible in his left instead of the great helm as per kit.

    I started off with sawing the cloak from beneath the shoulders on the upper back so the location of the right arm would be intact and also to retain the stance/pose of shouting defiance, and instigating the Order to "fight".......

    I know that the sword was worn beneath the mail long sleeved hauberk and the short sleeved quilted aketon, beneath the monk's cappa, but my vision of Raymond was/is that he put his helmet on the rubble wall beside him, leaned his sheild against the same rubble wall, lifted the sword scabbard while holding the Bible and "shouts" to his brethren........It would have been a real pity to "hide" the intricate sword belting even though some may argue that the knights DEFINITELY wore the sword belt beneath all that attire, and the cappa was propped over the sword which itself only showed the guard, hilt and pommel, the rest being hidden beneath the mail and padded hauberks.........maybe I took some artistic licence here :(

    After the main body was secured with pins and milliput, I moved on to the scratchbuilt items which are,

    No1......the sheild which was done from plasic card, lead sheet (from wine bottles), brass nails (stolen from Pa's bench) and an old Airfix aircraft spinner for the sheild boss.....

    No2...... helmet which was vacu formed in plastic on an old Matchbox aircraft spinner, brass nails, and lead sheet..........

    No3...... the Holy Bible which was a piece of distressed balsa wood, covered in plastic sheet and strips for the binding strips, and covered with lead sheet.........

    No4.......the sword scabbard which was shaped from a piece of plastic strip and all belting from lead sheet.......the hilt was a wooden skewer filed to shape and covered in lead sheet to depict the leather covering........I have a pic to proove this as my first attempt was not satisfactory with a very big pommel, so I cut a window in the lead sheet to show the wood underneath ;)

    Next on the agenda were the legs.........i removed all moulded mail and sculpted and shaped the shoes around the kit's spurs leather belting with almost dry MS.......after fully dry some creases were filed in with sand paper and a small file........the tying knots on the shoes which were an extension of the upper part were done in lead sheet with an actual knot being done and stuck accordingly........ Legs were drilled and pinned to the lower part and the hem of the white linen tunic was again lead sheet..........

    Building the lower part started off with layers of milliput and MS for the outer layer.....if you remember well, (Persian Cavalryman Bust) I'm no good at all in working with wet putty as somehow I get lost when I get to put in the folds, so my way is this......I let the putty to dry and work myself in with files and sand paper. However I did apply too much and too little as can be seen from the darker milliput showing thru the MS for the lower part........also for the upper part, again I put too much and too little especially on both arms so I had to "take off" most of it and roughly re shape things, filing, sanding, adding and filling here and there when it was "satisfactory enough"

    For the hood's edge, after much of the above mentioned chores I opted for a double folded lead sheet edge and re built around it.........it is still one of my quibbles as I think it does look a bit stiff :(.......the other quibbles I have is the sculpted mail and yes I did not take the Persian's mail as a lesson.......should have found a tool with a ticker wall so that it would compensate for the "movement" of the wet putty......or approached Augie's idea re cured Duro (only saw it today :( )......or took Steve's (club mate) advice to use wet Duro or a Duro/MS mix.........well its done now :( I hope I can paint it, not to look so "undetailed".........

    The arms' mail sleeves were sculpted on the inner part of a lead sheet piece and attached to the forearms.........when dry another thin layer of MS was spread on the outer part and shaped with my "C" tool which was a sawn off hypodermic needle......

    Next came the cappa sleeves and again these were sculpted on lead sheet........

    Head was pinned from the neck and secured with milliput and the mail coif sculpted around it.........the mail ventail was laid out on a lead sheet piece......the leather "ties" are seen on the left side of the gathered coif and yes again they are lead strips :)

    Finished off with relocating the left thumb and "accomodating" the heavy Bible against the left upper chest.........

    The last quibble I recieved so far (its not mine as my eye and mind can envision and justify this.....I hope :( ) is the "movement" of the right arm and hence the cappa's sleeve and the mail beneath..........what most club mates (Ivan, Steve and David amongst them) argued was that both sleeves should be more perpenicular to the hand and forearm as per weight of both mail and wool.........MHO is that they are right if they can't see the upward 45 degree arch movement as he lifts the sword and stops in that position.........the momentum of the action would surely "blow" both sleeves outwardly for a moment before it would re settle and hang per weight and gravity?? I am DEFINITELY open for any critisiscm/discussion and if I may "compare" this with Alferez's flag upheaval, again MHO is that both actions are "frozen"...... if I may add one last "defence"......I followed Laruccia's short mail sleeve as depicted in the same kit which had "that outward blow from underneath"........I'm not hiding behind one of the MOST GIFTED sculptors abilities here....... all I'm saying is that I'm envisioning that "frozen" moment........

    Take care,

    Ray ;)

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  2. rej Well-Known Member

    Country:
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    Anyone seeing this please HANG on there before posting and LET me finish please as I've got 54 pics in all so that's 39 LEFT :)

    Ray

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  3. rej Well-Known Member

    Country:
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    Another 15 :)

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  4. rej Well-Known Member

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    Some more ;)

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  5. Kyle Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Excellent work, Ray. This is a very creative composite using a lot of different pieces to make a wonderful whole.

    Very nicely done and inspiring.

    Kyle
  6. yeo_64 Active Member

    Country:
    Singapore
    Good Job !!!!!

    Ray, my friend, an EXCELLENT CONVERSION PIECE there !!!!!! An entry for WE 2008 perhaps ;) ? Looking forward to the finished product, my friend ! Cheers !
    Kenneth :D.
  7. Major_Goose Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Greece
    Really inspired and detailed work my friend. I admire your patience and strategic on the convertion. My congratulations, and i will be waiting to see the progress of this nice piece !!
  8. vergilius New Member

    Country:
    Belgium
    I could say excellent or superb or awesome, but there 're no words for this !!
    Congratulations with this conversion. Hope you paint it as well
  9. Christos Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Greece
    Great work on this conversion Ray!!!
    christos
  10. megroot A Fixture

    Country:
    Netherlands
    Ray,
    Just picked up my cheekbone from the desk. What a awesome job you are doing there.
    And the most fun most come: painting this figure. Excellent.

    marc
  11. slaj Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Malta
    Guys, i've seen this come along. It will be a very nice piece when finished for sure. Well done mate, you're doing an excellent job.

    Stephen Mallia
  12. Dan Morton A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    Very well done, Ray! You did a great job of showing us SBS the entire conversion process in considerable detail! The figure itself is marvelous and very original. May I make a suggestion? As it is a WIP, you may already intend to do this. You could cut in some folds to the lower front and back of the robe. A few folds could make that portion look more realistic.

    All the best,
    Dan
  13. Bruno New Member

    Hallo Ray,

    great work, you did!!! It gives the stock figurine a new live!

    Many greetings from Germany
  14. rej Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Malta
    Kyle....thanks a lot.....

    Kenneth, you make me blush with your RED ENTUSIASM :) thanks buddy, hopefully I wiill take it to Euro first then why not to Girona as well!!

    Costas, always appreciate your feedback and hope to follow suit re painting so I think you have to wait a bit as there's Louis, King Philip (again :( but its a commision this time) and Andrea's Imperial Guard Grenadier 90mm ;) all in line for painting :(

    Vergilius (is this your real name?) again thanks for your overly praise, much appreciated......I aspire and hope to paint it even better so to "hide" any flaws or quibbles :(

    Christos, thanks for your words......

    Marc, hope your jaws are in one piece, but if not you can have some of the EXTRA magic sculpt I kneaded :(.........thanks for your overly praise ;)

    Steve, thanks mate.....won't see you tomorrow at club as I'm night :( have a couple of beers for me pls :)

    Dan, thanks for looking and I really appreciate your feedback.......however the figure is now primed and have to leave him as he is with "all" the quibbles mentioned :( may I ask you what is a WIP? I'm a bit dumb at times :( just a note......the monk's cappa is made of wool and being a heavy material and being secured at the waist by that rope, won't afford much more folds then there are already........the "camouflage" resulting from the milliput beneath showing through the magic sculpt must be destorting a bit I admit.......but as I said at the begining I really do appreciate your feedback so please keep it coming.........

    Bruno, how are you my friend? Just saw the pics of Ingolstadt on Figurines Mag and I rekindled some fond memories of your excellent show......wish I was there :) Thanks for looking and I salute you from Malta!!

    Ray
  15. ArturM Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Poland
    Hi Ray,
    did you painted this knight?

    best regards
    Artur
  16. Dan Morton A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    Ray,

    WIP = work in progress. I thought when you posted this it was still being worked on and I understand your explanation about the thick coarse wool. Excellent conversion and I look forward to the painting!

    All the best,
    Dan

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