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Polish Lancer - Napoleonic era

Discussion in 'vBench (Works in Progress)' started by Guy, Feb 12, 2004.

  1. Guy A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    I did the trumpeter years ago and decided to do the other one I bought then, now. This will be the Lancer on the twin base to the Trumpeter. Here I have spent a couple of days filling the seams and primering. Only to discover that I had missed an area and had to go back and re-fil , sand, and primer. I have chosen a dark bay with 3 white stockings and a small white blaze on the horse's head.

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  2. KeithP Active Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Guy-

    Looks very smart!

    Would you tell me what you are using for filler or putty?

    I am interested in how you handle rather large gaps.

    Thx.

    Keith
  3. Guy A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    Thanks Keith,
    I am using Squadron White Putty, fast drying. I can use this and come back 20 minutes later and sand it down. If I have a rather large gap, I will back fill it previously before epoxying the horse halves together. You can usually tell when you do the first test fit of all the parts. This will give the putty a good foundation and stay there. Although on Poste Militaire, you don't get the "Big" gaps like other castings will come with. I prefer the white putty over their old "Green Stuff" because of color and less odor with the white Putty.
  4. johnbrewer New Member

    Looks like this will be a good one to followthe progress on. (y)
  5. Luis R. Active Member

    Country:
    Spain
    Hi Guy,

    It seems like you intend to paint the horse first and then attach the head harness. Won't you risk damaging the paint job on the horse's head by doing so?. I have that kit, half assembled, and remember that fitting the harness to the head involved heavy handling, pressing and so.
  6. Guy A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    Thanks Luis,
    The harness has already been pressed to the basic shape and is underway in painting. I have already finished the same piece as a trumpeter and followed the pressing fitting part first on the horse. The harness comes out so well when painted seperately, then attached. Tedious.......but worth it IMO.

    guy
  7. Roc Active Member

    Country:
    United-States
    I will be following your step by step closely.I have this kit and have made it my next project.
    This has to be one of the nicest kits ever produced.
    Roc.
  8. Guy A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    After 3 hours of working the enamels, the horse is blended and shaded. The next step is to do the white stockings and drybrush the main body of the horse. These are the same colors I used on the Zulu and the Verlinden Pirate bust, "Ceasar". The rider was cleaned up and pegged and later primed. Long way to go yet! :(

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  9. Anders Heintz Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Hey Guy!

    Have one of those in the back yard! Looking great!

    I would make sure the socks arent so uniform, sure it happens but not to often 3 socks are all the same size. Also make sure you dont paint the whites in the eyes but just the brown/black eyeball and highlight it, all too often we see a horse with human eyes, when in fact the only time we really see any eye white is when the horse is excited or scared. And ofcourse you will see them all the time incase it's an Appy, and sometimes Throughbreds also have alot of white showing.

    The saying goes that the more the darker brown of the iris covers the eye the gentler the horse is. I find this somewhat true :)
  10. gordy Well-Known Member

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    United-States
    beautiful, rich colors Guy!
    (y)
  11. Joe Hudson Active Member

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    United-States
    Guy,

    He is looking good. Looking forward to seeing the rest.

    Joe
  12. ACCOUNT_DELETED A Fixture

    Country:
    Canada
    Very nice job on the horse. I don't know about you but I hate doing horses, or any other large area requiring subtle shading. Good idea to get it out of the way first. I also hate groundwork.

    Colin
  13. yeo_64 Active Member

    Country:
    Singapore
    Excellent job,Guy Your horse is looking really GOOD even at this early stage ! Wish I could paint one as well as you though Keep up the good work,my friend,and post more soon.Cheers !
    Kenneth
  14. Richard E New Member

    Hi Guy

    I have that very same horse (minus the hussar) that I plan on putting something on, I hope I do half as good a job on it.
  15. Guy A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    Thanks for the kind words guys. I am now trying to get accurate colors for the saddle cloth as I see it in several shades of blues. Anyone clarify the darkness of the blue. The pants will be in scarlet with ?blue stripes. As Napoleonic era is not my stregnth.......could use some help here.

    guy
  16. ACCOUNT_DELETED A Fixture

    Country:
    Canada
  17. ACCOUNT_DELETED A Fixture

    Country:
    Canada
  18. Guy A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    Many thanks Colin.....I bookmarked that link and am printing out the pic you linked to. I would assume the horse blanket would be the same dark blue!

    guy
  19. Johan Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Belgium
    Guy,

    On the subject of blue:

    The particular shade your after is "Bleu Imperial".
    I can give you a recipe in oils, perhaps you can find equivalents in acrylics?

    Base: equal parts of talens rembrandt Indigo extra + Winsor & Newton Winsor Blue, add very small amounts of titanium white until it looks right... iow, make it a little lighter so that you have a very dark blue, but still a blue.

    1st shadow wet on wet with the base mix without the tit. white.
    1st highlight wet on wet with tit. white with some of the base mix, or else cerulean blue, ... even an off-white - fe. tit. white with some earth colour (raw sienna or raw umber) added - will work well...

    deepest shadow, wet on dry, base without tit. white but + some black, sparingly in the "nr. 5" zones acc. to the "stop sign".
    lightest highlight, wet on dry, tit. white with base colour added, or cerulean blue, sparingly on the nr. 1 zones of the "stop sign".




    Johan ;)
  20. ACCOUNT_DELETED A Fixture

    Country:
    Canada
    Given different materials, different manufacturers, dyes, condiitons of service etc., probably not.

    Subject to artisitic license and scale - OK.

    But you might want to consider differing the blues between the trouser stripes, the kurtka facings and the horse furniture, enter it in an IPMS show and await the inevitable arival of THE NAPOLEONIC COLOUR EXPERT.

    Seriously though, I would expect the horse furniture to be more faded than the uniform as it would be replaced and repaired less often and would likely be subject to more rigourous environmental abuse.

    Colin

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