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"Paintathon" with WW2 German from Stormtroopers V12 range

Discussion in 'vBench (Works in Progress)' started by Nap, Jan 31, 2014.

  1. Sturm Grenadier Well-Known Member

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    Hello Mark, You are right about the camo overalls being non-reversible. I have read accounts of them being both reversible, and non-reversible. Perhaps war shortages contributed to them becoming one-sided??? I have seen the buttons in both plastic, and metal, in wartime photos. The camo overalls that I posted are probably a reproduction, but the pattern, and colors, look pretty accurate. Wish you were joining us, it would be interesting to see how you would paint this second one, the first was excellent. Regards, SG:)(y)(y)
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  2. Nap A Fixture

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    Hi Guys ,
    Can't sleep so I thought I would check in ...great stuff being done

    Pedro ,
    Hope all is well now , like the cap , you are way in front at the moment (y) like the way you are going , looking forward to your peadot .


    If I may suggest I think all the flesh needs is a blending of the shadows a bit more whe highs on the cheeks look like it has a distinctive line if you understand me...like the shadows as a result of the peak .

    Mark ,
    Thanks for posting your comments are always very welcome indeed as is looking at your painting skills ;)


    If anyone needs reference's on camo I have these in the Europa Militaire series as well as the book that Mark mentions

    a.jpg aa.jpg aaa.jpg


    Thanks to all for sharing

    Nap
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  3. Sturm Grenadier Well-Known Member

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    Hello Everyone, I like how this thread is starting out. To Pedro, nice work so far, your way ahead of me. I like how you will display this bust in the Ardennes. I was thinking along the same lines as you, since this bust has overalls, a rubberized coat with the collar turned up, and a scarf. Although, it was cold and rainy at the start of the Normandy campaign also. I was also going to paint it as a recon grenadier, because of the motorcycle coat, but I'll go to option #2, darn you Pedro, only kidding. To Nap, I also like your Hermann Meyer conversion idea. That large bill of the cap might be a real challenge for you, hope that your able to pull it off without to much problems. I'm also debating if I should change the bill??? Would like to reveal more of that right eye. Although this bust doesn't resemble him much, one idea I had was from this photo of Franz-Josef Kneipp. He was an Untersturmfuhrer, which the shoulder boards on this bust represent. He was a signal officer with the III./SS-Panzergrenadier- Regiment 25, 12th SS Panzer Div. Hitlerjugend, He is wearing a camo overall, and an enlisted belt buckle on his combat harness, also on the bust. Decisions, decisions, I'll have somthing ironed out by Monday. Here is the photo of Kneipp, Regards, SG knightsandsteel3.jpg
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  4. pmfs A Fixture

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    Nap, thanks for your opinion, but this time the flesh is not as i expected. Better next time.
    SG, Ardennes is ok;)
    The work continues and one hour I finished the scarf and the peadot camo in the jacket, I believe this "overalls" can paint as a jacket also.

    Scarf: Dark grey base, lihts with light grey.
    Base painting in Cap: Fieldgrey + Olive grey
    Base in Great coat: Green grey + fieldgrey
    Colours in Jacket: English Uniform 80% + 20% dark sand
    Dark green Dots: Dark Green
    Light green Dots: German camo bright green
    Sand Dots: Flesh base
    All with Vallejo.
    Next week the bust is done for sure. :)


    Pedro.

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  5. Sturm Grenadier Well-Known Member

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    Nice colors you have used Pedro, the Pea Dot camo looks great. Regards, SG(y)
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  6. pmfs A Fixture

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    Many thanks SG!
    I do not mind extra work - because I was unhappy with the flesh tones i decide repainted skin again with the acrylic colors that usually use for my 54mm figures and this is the final result of 2 hours work.
    Colors use:
    Base - Calvary brown 50% + Brown sand 50%
    Lights - Ading to base Sunny skint tone
    Extreme Lights - Sunny skin tone + Hueso
    Shadows - Very diluted Calvary Brown

    Sorry for the quality photo but you get an idea. I am very happy!:joyful:
    Hope to see your works soon guys!!!

    Pedro.

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  7. Sturm Grenadier Well-Known Member

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    Hello Pedro, I like the changes you made to the face, it looks completely different.(y) Are you planning to give the tunic a wash, or pin wash to bring out the detail of the buttons, pocket, and lapels??? I have been working on this bust this afternoon. Like you, and Mark, I will be doing surgery on the eyes, just not enough there to paint in its present condition. On my example of this bust, the right eye is not really there, just a small lump, disappointing, but I'll try to fix it. Amazing what the optivisor reveals. Hope to start posting photos, and references, with sbs soon. Regards, SG
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  8. Wings5797 A Fixture

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    Looking really good Pedro.
    The re painted face is very nicely done.
    Cheers
    Keith
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  9. Nap A Fixture

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    Hi Guys ,

    Blimey Pedro you are steaming along , love the camo and the reworked face looks really a lot better .

    Great mixes as well ..what is Hueso ??

    Meanwhile ..in the outside lane , I spent a couple of hours doing the epaulettes and the cap details ..then I did them again ...twice!!!! as they didn't look right ...I will post some pics after I have done the peak (deep intake of breath) ...and also the eyes ...dashed optivisors eh SG !!!

    Enjoying this immensley

    Thanks to all for sharing

    Nap
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  10. Borek A Fixture

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    Great thread, I must watching this. Thanks for this interesting idea, Nap(y). Cheers Borek
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  11. pmfs A Fixture

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    SG, Keith. Nap amd Borek many thanks guys!

    SG, I will wash the tunic and bring out the buttons and everything. Be careful with the eyes!!!
    Nap, Hueso is Ivory from Vallejo brand.

    Pedro.
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  12. Nap A Fixture

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    Hi Guys ,

    Everyones is looking good ...mine is still being worked on ...off to do the peak before work!!!!

    How I wish I could win the Euro Lottery!!!!!

    Thanks Pedro fro the Hueso info ...great mix you have given ...great results

    Borek ,

    Glad you are enjoying this thread ...why not join us (y)......there will be other threads like this in the future seems a good idea

    Nap

    PS ...Goetz ...how are you doing ?
  13. Wings5797 A Fixture

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    "To be sure to be sure" as my Irish Mates say.
    Press on Boys this is riveting stuff, Keep up the great work.
    Cheers,
    Keith
  14. swralph A Fixture

    Nice to see this
  15. Sturm Grenadier Well-Known Member

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    Hello Everyone, Last night I started working on the eyes, not painting them, but trying to re-shape both eye sockets. As I previously mentioned, earlier in the thread, the right eye is not there, just a small bump of resin to represent the eye, no eye socket at all. The left eye is better, but very narrow, so I'll try to fix it also, a little frustrating, and time consuming. These eye areas are fixable, but still alot of work to make them look presentable, wish I was a little more skilled at sculpting. I'm using a x-acto knife to perform the surgery. Other than these eye areas, the eagle on the cap, and also on the belt buckle have some air holes in them, that will need some filling, not to bad though. I hope that somebody will come out with photo-etch medals, rank badges, awards, ect... to go on uniforms, and not just WWII, in 1/9th, 1/10, and 1/12th scales, to use on busts/figures, none out there that I know of. Sure would make conversions a little more easier, especially with all the new busts out now. I'm still leaning towards making the bust a non-com, maybe as an officer candidate. The shoulder boards had slip on bar strips to show the soldiers status. Also want to add the nco strap around the hat. I haven't decided the pattern, or colors, on the camo coveralls as of yet, but probably a plain tree one in summer/fall colors??? The rubberized motorcycle coat, which I have seen in many colors, ranging from a light mouse gray, to dark field gray, will be painted in colors that won't distract from the camo coveralls. Once I get past the eyes, hat, and shoulder boards, and start to paint, I'll post the colors I'm using with the photos. Here are some references on what I'm trying to shoot for: 579533d1381177029-interesting-waffen-ss-headgear-hg-40b.jpg g006526-2_1.jpg 102712 206.JPG 579498d1381169554-interesting-waffen-ss-headgear-hg-47b.jpg C-011.jpg Fig59.jpg Fig60.jpg Picture 574.jpg kradmantel.jpg 09122804.jpg SS_NCO_EM.jpg I thought the last photo of the Rottenfuhrer (corporal) was interesting wearing the peaked cap, instead of a side cap version. Regards SG

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  16. pmfs A Fixture

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    Very good references SG. Once more be careful with the eyes a long cut could ruin everything.
    Photo etched metal would be nice in this scales, I think NIMIX from Spain have some in his catalogue.
    Keep the good work!
    Pedro.
  17. Nap A Fixture

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    Hi Guys ,

    Brilliiat references from SG ...I like the idea of the officer cadet on the epaulettes ...just finished work ....yesterday I took the peak off ...with a very sharp knife ..hang on ....1,2,3, 4, 5 ...thank goodness all my fingers on one hand ..the other looks the same !!!!.

    Then looked at the eyes ...out came my dremel ..he now has sockets with the eyeballs on the middle , no peak ..oh blimey does it get any better ....can't wait to get the kolinsky out!!!!

    Really enjoying this ...still nothing from Goetz yet ..hopefully soon

    Nap
  18. Sturm Grenadier Well-Known Member

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    24.jpg Hello Nap, I was also thinking about taking off the peak, to get at the eye sockets a little easier, but didn't like how the peak thickens going towards the forehead. I also have a dremel, which is a great idea, so maybe. You're braver than I. Looking forward to seeing how that meyer cap turns out. Sent a message to Goetz, but haven't heard back from him. I have a full pot of coffee brewing:coffee: and plan to get some work done tonight, have a couple of days off from work, so plan to get this bust where I want it before painting. Nap, if your going with a tropical look, as in your photo, the motorcycle coat also came in a lightweight version, almost identical in design to the rubberized one. I think I have a few more reference photos, if you need some. Regards, SG:)(y)
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  19. Nap A Fixture

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    England
    Hi SG ,

    As always ..great references ..I would appreciate the coat references if you can get them

    As for the peak ..I used a new and very sharp knife ...and held my breath ...coffee now on ...doing the eyes!!!...then the peak ...then the neck cloth...then the priming then painting(y)

    Happy Modelling

    Nap
  20. Borek A Fixture

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    Thanks, Nap:) . I would like joined, but the painting is still'll learn in future:D. In addition, now I do not have much time to do it. But I will enthusiastically follow your progress. Perhaps sometime in the future. Good luck guys(y).

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