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New Release - Russian Grenadier Battle of Borodino- Full Figure 230mm

Discussion in 'Figure News' started by Ratty, Jan 8, 2019.

  1. Ratty Well-Known Member

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  2. debrito A Fixture

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    230mm why so big?(n)
  3. clrsgt A Fixture

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    United-States
    A great looking pair; but sadly too large a scale for me.
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  4. Tecumsea PlanetFigure Supporter

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    The large scale is determined by the fact that it is converted from a bust in this scale.

    Keith
  5. Martin Rohmann A Fixture

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    Germany
    When the bust came out, was - rightly! - criticized that the flag is much too small. Too bad that they did not take the opportunity to correct that.

    The right size ratio can be seen here ...:

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    Cheers
  6. svt Active Member

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    Russian-Federation
    There are accurate data on the size of infantry flags. Since this is the Pavlovsky Grenadier Regiment, in 1812 he fought under the flag of 1797 mod., the cloth of which had a size of 1.42 x 1.42 meters, on a pole of 3.31 meters in length. But the size of the flag on this miniature is a trifle compared to a lot of other big mistakes.
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  7. malc PlanetFigure Supporter

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    Regardless of Any faults... this is a brilliant figure with some great detail, one that a painter could really get their teeth into.....

    Just need to convince the wife.
  8. Reptor A Fixture

    Wow!:eek: Fantastic release ! Very beautiful sculpt ! Great work !:love:(y)
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  9. Nap Forum Moderator

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    England
    Hi Ratty

    I saw Jim do the legs for this piece a lot of thinking and putty with good results , I think it would also work well with a musket instead of the flag ...perhaps an option

    Svt ,

    I would be interested in some more infomstion from you in respect details but as Malc says

    Thanks for sharing this release

    Nap
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  10. malc PlanetFigure Supporter

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    I think as Nap wrote, a substitute rifle for the flag would put this at the top of my list.
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  11. svt Active Member

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    At this time I am very busy with work, so this week I will not be able to translate into English the list of most of the mistakes of this sculpture.
  12. Nap Forum Moderator

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    England

    Thank you if and when you are able would be nice for those purchasing this release

    Nap
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  13. Igor73 Active Member

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    Russian-Federation
    uniforms and equipment for 1805 and summer pants for 1812???
  14. svt Active Member

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    Russian-Federation
    There is neither uniform and equipment of 1805, nor 1812.
    Compare, at least, the characteristic knapsack of 1802, how it looks on the sculpture (by the way, for some reason it is on the straps from the knapsack of 1808) and how it looked in reality. And there is no on this sculpture pants in 1812 - summer pants in 1812 looked a little different. I find it difficult to assume that it serves as a source of information for such historical sculptures.

    This one or this one.
    111.jpg 222.jpg

    And this is how the knapsack of 1802 looked in reality, and with such knapsacks our infantry participated in the battle of Austerlitz. But, by 1812, such a knapsack was not used for at least 4 years.
    ранец солдатский обр 1802.jpg
    The equipment of the Russian grenadier in 1812 should look like this.
    комплект_пехотный_1807_001.jpg комплект_пехотный_1807_002.jpg комплект_пехотный_1807_003.jpg комплект_пехотный_1807_004.jpg комплект_пехотный_1807_005.jpg комплект_пехотный_1807_006.jpg

    But I repeat that this is not all the mistakes of this sculpture. I can show the rest later.
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  15. badger Well-Known Member

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    IT IS A GREAT FIGURE TO PAINT, AS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO CANT SCULPT ANYTHING,BUT ONLY LOOK FOR FAULTS, I CALL THEM -RIVET COUNTERS-THEY SHOULD APPRECIATE THE WORK AND TIME TAKEN TO MAKE THIS FIGURE,AND THANK THE SCULPTOR FOR PRODUCING A FIGURE IN THIS SCALE,WHICH I THINK IS QUITE RARE. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A GO AT PAINTING IT./ BADGER
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  16. malc PlanetFigure Supporter

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    As badger but I'm to polite to say.
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  17. svt Active Member

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    Maybe only for coloring this sculpture is good, but I would pay attention to the name - Russian Grenadier Battle of Borodino. And is he Russian because he has a flag in his hand and on his head a hat with a double-headed eagle? There is nothing more here that would indicate that this is a Russian soldier, much less that it would define the year as 1812, namely the Battle of Borodino. By the way, the double-headed eagle is not necessarily a Russian soldier. By calling the sculpture with a specific name, indicating the date for it, we define its historicity. In this case, there is only a name, and a sculpture that does not correspond to this name.

    Why did you decide that the critic should be able to sculpt? In this case, only the composer has the right to criticize music, the cinema is only the director, the quality of automotive fuel is only an employee of an oil refinery?
    But I can sculpt, I can draw, I can find the necessary historical information. Above, I showed only a small part of the errors of the sculpture and attached it with images. You do not see the difference between these items of equipment? It is as big as a cube differs from a cylinder, how much all of human history differs from the history of the Fellowship of the Ring.
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  18. malc PlanetFigure Supporter

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    My
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  19. NeilW Member

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    Newbie to this site, but in my book any figure has to be true to its stated time and place (ie. as far as we know from evidence: dark ages etc are more murky). Even Plastic Soldiers Review comments on this, and that's at 1/72nd scale.

    Svt appears to be making valid criticisms based on evidence and from what I can see is a good sculptor in his own right so any insinuation that he can't sculpt seems uncalled for:
    https://www.planetfigure.com/thread...ossack-regiment-1812-1814.118799/#post-951773
    https://www.planetfigure.com/thread...he-defense-of-sevastopol-in-1854-1855.117639/
    https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/reiter-рodpraporshchik-second-half-of-the-xvii-century.104741/
    https://vk.com/album331060846_234555895
    https://vk.com/album331060846_234555226
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  20. Tonton Well-Known Member

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    United-Kingdom
    I don’t want to be drawn into any argument about the correct equipment for a Pavlovsky Grenadier but, unless the Russian Army was equipped throughout with the latest specified kit (and I know the Pavlovsky Grenadiers were an elite unit), isn’t it possible that some were still using items which had been superseded? I know that the French – and probably many other nations in the Grande Armée – were outfitted in a whole range of standard and non-standard uniform oddments and looked quite rag-tag. Incidentally, the mitre could do with a musket ball hole or two; in recognition of their bravery, the Pavlovsky Grenadiers were encouraged to sport this outmoded piece of headwear with any battle damage to prove their undoubted courage.

    Jeff
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