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Discussion in 'vBench (Works in Progress)' started by Joe Hudson, Dec 2, 2003.

  1. LCoote New Member

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    Australia
    Joe, your sherlock figure really looks good, both the drapery and animation are right on.
    Thanks also for posting your first attempt at an original, how many have you done now?
    I'm never 100% happy with my work either, and probably never will be, but it's fun ,and at times very frustrating, trying.
  2. quang Active Member

    Country:
    Belgium
    Joe,

    I second what have been said about the 'feel' of the figure, the animation and drapery. Great masses and volumes, too, especially that characteristic overcoat

    I'm not too convinced, though, by the folds under the right arm. They should be EMPHASISING the extension of the right side of the body and therefore should be in the opposite direction.

    It's a very expressive and ambitious pose. Not as simple as one might think. You've done a great job so far. (y) (y)

    Looking forward to the next step.

    Quang
  3. garyjd Well-Known Member

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    United-States
    Quang, I've been using very fine files to work in fold on the arms of my marine. After indicating in pencil where I want them to go I take a file(s) work in the fold and smooth out with fine steel wool. If you have a good idea of where and how you want the folds it does not take long to do.~Gary
  4. John Long Active Member

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    United-States
    Joe, Mr. Holmes is looking terrific. Are you making the hound yourself?
  5. Joe Hudson Well-Known Member

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    United-States
    Thanks guys. John the hound is going to be a modified one from IR. I am making a resin casting so that I can cut it up and use parts of it. It is a really nice hound but he is running and I want one leaping.

    Leigh,

    This will be my 7 th figure. I have done 4 golfers, one Rev War drummer, a W.W.I Britt, Kreston is painting the last 2, and the Sherlock.

    Gary and Quang thanks for the info. Quang, I will try to make the necessary corrections tonight and then post what I did. Just a quick question, Do I need to make more/sharper folds on the left side?

    Thanks for all the help and support. :)

    Joe
  6. quang Active Member

    Country:
    Belgium
    Joe,

    I don't think the folds need to be sharper (what we have here is a medium-heavy material with a good 'hang' so I think the folds should be straightening out by themselves in a 'normal' pose) but they should be more defined.

    Note that folds are rarely parallel. They tend to RADIATE from a stress point.

    If you're unsure about their positions, try this simple trick: make a roll/cylinder from putty/plasticine/fimo about 2 inches/ 5 cm diameter and 10 cm long. Give it a quarter-turn twist then bend it toward the right (like on your figure). You should see the folds forming on the putty and by studying them, you will have a clearer idea of what you need.

    The next step would be to trace the folds with a marker on your figure (like Gary does) and build them up accordingly.

    (y)

    Quang
  7. Joe Hudson Well-Known Member

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    United-States
    Quang,

    Thanks. I will give it a try and then post the pictures later. Thanks for clearing it up for me. :)

    Joe
  8. garyjd Well-Known Member

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    United-States
    Joe,

    I too now have The pirates of the Caribbean on DVD, thanks a lot buddy. My head is just going to explode it's so full.~Gary
  9. simon1969 New Member

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    United-Kingdom
    Gary,

    A slow steady release would probably be best ;) hmmm, maybe forming itself around an armature?


    If you do decide to make something from the film please be sure to take lots of progress shots!!! ;)

    Simon
  10. Joe Hudson Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Sorry Buddy,

    Not really, I sure would love to see something, soon? ;)

    Joe
  11. Joe Hudson Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Quang,

    Here is my attempt at correcting what you pointed out. Thanks again. :)

    Joe
  12. garyjd Well-Known Member

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    United-States
    Joe, That looks just great! Man that is going to be a sweet looking figure.~Gary
  13. Joe Hudson Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Gary,

    Thanks. I wanted to see if you or Quang thought this is what it needed. Now I can go on and start on the right arm. I will post pictures of it when I get finished.

    Joe
  14. LCoote New Member

    Country:
    Australia
    Joe, that looks right on (y)
  15. quang Active Member

    Country:
    Belgium
    Definitively better!

    (y)

    Quang
  16. Joe Hudson Well-Known Member

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    United-States
    Leigh and Quang,

    Thanks a bunch. I hope to get to work on the right arm soon.

    Joe
  17. John Long Active Member

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    United-States
    Joe, that's such a subtle change with a dramatic difference. I learned something else today. Drapery is one of those things I think you have to develop a feel for, and you are definitely getting it.
  18. gordy Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Drapery is quite a science, it has it's laws, physics and rules... ironically art and science seemingly natural polar opposites, are very intwined...
  19. Joe Hudson Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    John and Gordy,

    Thanks John. I agree it makes a world of difference. I agree with you as well Gordy, there are certain rules about the drapery and it's you guys who know that help the ones like me . I am thankful for all the help and for this site. I can honestly say that I think my improvements have come from all the help. It is nice to have all these eyes looking over your work and seeing the things that you end up missing.

    Joe
  20. Anders Heintz Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Hey Joe!

    Very nice! I've been following this thread and I learn more all the time it seems. Your Sherlock is looking very good, and your ability to rebound and fix a problem area is impressive. Keep up the great work Joe!

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