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Nemrod Knight

Discussion in 'vBench (Works in Progress)' started by Dave Ward, Apr 22, 2020.

  1. Dave Ward Member

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    United-Kingdom
    As a result of a unexpected win, on an ebay auction, I've got this:
    DSCF0567.JPG
    It's either 1/9, or 1/10 - a fairly hefty chunk of resin, very clean, but not a great deal of detail, especially on the helmet.....................
    DSCF0568.JPG
    A list of knights that this may represent is included - a bit of heraldic research may be needed, for his shield ( which looks rather small to my eyes. ).
    I'm going to only use acrylics on this, I think that the steel helmet/bascinet will look better than anything than I could produce in oils!
    Dave
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  2. arj A Fixture

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  3. Dave Ward Member

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    United-Kingdom
    Andrew,
    yes, I've got the bits, just a matter of getting the CA out....................
    Hmm, mine came in a plastic bag, with a stapled Historex header ( probably why the damage occurred ), don't think it's a clone, it has the printed ( french ) history & painting sheet
    Dave
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  4. Nap A Fixture

    Country:
    England
    Hi Dave

    Good find I saw this and was tempted but glad a PF member got it !

    Definately original , certainly go to town on the helmet and the heraldry

    Look forward to some updates on this

    Happy benchtime

    Stay safe

    Nap

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  5. Dave Ward Member

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    United-Kingdom
    I've looked around a bit, and some of the Heraldic designs are way over the top! - far too complicated & way beyond my skill set!
    At the moment, the favourite is Thomas Camoys, Ist Baron Camoys
    camoys shield.jpg
    It's bold, striking colours - and not too difficult to paint! I'm still looking, English Knights around the time of Agincourt (1415 )
    Dave
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  6. Richard Baxter A Fixture

    Country:
    Scotland
    How about the Earl of Oxford, Richard de Vere? Arms are red and yellow quartered (top left, bottom right are red) with a white star in the upper left red quadrant.
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  7. Dave Ward Member

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    United-Kingdom
    Steve,
    thanks for that - I'd found the Fenwick Roll. I realise I might be limiting my search by specifying Agincourt, so I'm looking at 1375-1425 period, I'm in no real hurry, I've got other things ( non-figure ) on the bench at the moment
    The De Vere looks promising
    1200px-Arms_of_de_Vere.svg.jpg

    Dave
  8. Helm A Fixture

    Country:
    England
    You could go for a more obscure country as well lot of small kingdoms dotted about.
    Steve
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  9. Dave Ward Member

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    United-Kingdom
    Neil,
    wow, thanks for all that! I think I may be able to sort one knight out!
    Before any real painting starts, I've repaired his 'collar', generally remove all moulding seams, drilled out the air holes in the visor, and opened up the eye slits
    DSCF0572.JPG

    ......................and primed them. I'm going to have to sort out a plinth for this, it's heavier than the other busts I've done.
    Dave
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  10. NeilW A Fixture

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    United-Kingdom
    Cheers Dave... glad to have helped (or confused the issue :confused:)

    One point: as you say, the shield does look rather small (it would be fairly easy to make a larger one).

    BoL,

    Neil (y)
  11. Dave Ward Member

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    United-Kingdom
    Neil,
    the shield is slung across his back, it might not be too obvious. I'll have to try and find out what size a shield could be, and if there was a difference in size between horseborn, or foot knight...........
    Dave
  12. Dave Ward Member

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    United-Kingdom
    Working from this as the dimensions of a modern replica,
    draw_shield2.jpg
    Assuming that the bust is 1/9 (200mm scale ), then the shield should be 59mm wide by 73mm high.
    The model size is 35mm x 48mm, so really undersize!
    Dave
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  13. Helm A Fixture

    Country:
    England
    Further to what Mike said, English knights tended to have smaller, flatter shields than most others due to being more foot than mounted troops. By the Wars of the roses most carried bucklers at best.
    Steve
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  14. NeilW A Fixture

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    United-Kingdom
    Yep, Steve and Mike are right in that shields got smaller as plate armour became more common and had pretty-well gone by the mid C15th. Likely that by Agincourt only mounted knights would use shields as many foot knights/squires/sergents etc fought with two handed poleaxes etc.

    But, if you want a shield then the model's is def too small.
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  15. Dave Ward Member

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    United-Kingdom
    I've drawn out a shield to my calculated size - its big! The width is OK, but the height! I will have to trim away the bottom of the shield, level with the bottom of the bust - I'm going to make a cardboard template to see how that works - something to look forward to tomorrow...........
    Dave
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  16. Range Rat Active Member

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    United-Kingdom
    Must admit I had been watching the bust but forgot about it, that's when you blagged it.


    Mark Ward
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  17. Nap A Fixture

    Country:
    England
    Hi Guys

    This is what PF is all about ....great information and help to a member

    Certainly learning a lot about shields and heraldry here


    Dave

    Good prep work on the resin

    Look forward to updates

    Happy benchtime

    Stay safe

    Nap
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  18. MCPWilk A Fixture

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    United-Kingdom
    Gordon Mitchell may well have some of my shields available - the small heater would probably be best.

    Mike
  19. Dave Ward Member

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Shield size..............................
    The resin shield looks way too small!
    DSCF0578.JPG


    I cut some card templates......................
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    Then blutacked them
    Too big! DSCF0579.JPG

    Just about right - maybe a little tweaking
    DSCF0580.JPG DSCF0581.JPG

    I may need to just trim the bottom edge of the shield, to follow the cotton line of the bust.......................
    I have some thick plasticard, that I can heat bend to form, so hopefully the shield form is sorted. - now back to my other project ( 1/35 Bishop SPG )
    Dave
  20. Nap A Fixture

    Country:
    England
    Hi Dave

    It certainly did look out of scale ...nice recovery with the template

    You might be able to use the smaller shield on the base ?

    Where you repaired the break think it needs more sanding back

    Nap
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