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Have this Masterclass figure on my workbench; assumed as a Mameluke; but apart from the excellent Patrice Courcelle artwork have no other references. Anybody have anything else. Obliged

I'm no expert on this but it looks like a mounted version of this appears on https://translate.google.com/transl...formes-17-del-primer-imperio.html&prev=search.

ETA: also take a look at this thread https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/2019-2020-my-modelling-year.121611/page-7. It's just updated with a mounted kettledrummer mamluk.

Many Thanks. Once I am happy with my references I shall commence. Watch this space.

https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/2019-2020-my-modelling-year.121611/page-7#post-1044839

Many thanks IVo great reference for me.

This is why he asked wich coulours to use for the uniform
"Kettledrummer of colour" ! :
Please do not forget, they were formed of ancient slaves coming from Turkistan and Caucase and east europe, so representing them systematicaly as central african is an insult ( by ignorance ) from peoples assuming that slave means central africans
Nowadays, it seems that the kettle drumer was very dark skinned, it could be interesting to find a reference text ( source) of the time to prove it . He could have been a free men from the Antillas as General Thoams Alexandre Davy ( A. Dumas father )

Interesting debate; it would be good to get some background. Apart from the potential variations in dress colour (red pantaloons!) origins of incumbents! Thanks all as always!

I did some research to do my Kettledrummer, all the information show more or less the same details. Not completely sure about the color of the man. Black was very fashion in the mid XIX century and many documents came from that period.

go to see my thread https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/2019-2020-my-modelling-year.121611/page-6 answer 112 and you will find some answer to this kind of questions

Thats a very nice figure.
Unfortunally to small for my older eyes.

marc

That fashion was carried forward from beginning of the 18th century, at least. It was very fashionable to have black musicians in the regimental "musick", or to have black footmen and servants in your retinue, if you were a nobleman. As for terminology, in the vocabulary of the day, they were often referred to as Moors, too.

Prost!
Brad

Interesting discussion. Mamelukes are well known in the Ottoman ruled middle east.
But if interested in black soldiers in post-revolution France, why not go all the way up for General Thomas Alexandre Dumas, probably the most prominent of all (and father of the author Alexandre Dumas)?
There is (or at least was) a Metal Models figure of him. Also, you can check out: https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/alexander-dumas-father.64263/

Best,

Benny

Second that.

Oda.