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Mongolian Horse Archer

Discussion in 'Figure News' started by War Griffon, Sep 16, 2014.

  1. steve c Active Member

    Total stunner Martin
    looks great
  2. jenghiz Active Member

    I am glad this piece was picked up and is being produced.Comparing it with the original as posted on here by Sergey I wonder why the neck tassel has been lost and the purpose of the additions to the face protection.Also liked the way the arrow was ready to go.Unsure as to the "wave",maybe it's just that it's novel.Good to see different ways of displaying busts/half figures.
  3. War Griffon Active Member

    The concepts Sergy showed were to an extent just that, the head tassel for the horses head he never passed to me as they apparently broke, I never had them redone as I think the modeller can do that themselves if they wish (not all Mongol horses them) the tassel for it is included so it is just a matter of adding the strap which I am sure we are all capable of doing.

    With regards the helmet nothing has been changed, likewise nothing of the sculpt has been significantly altered from Sergey's original that I received the additional work is the addition of the sword and repair work due to damage in the post.

    The hand is not designed to hold an arrow at the ready as well as the bow and no additional arrow was supplied with the master, again this is something for the sculptor to add should they wish.

    As for the argument of it not being a full figure, well that is why it is a bust and something different :D

    Not everything has to be the same :D and I am sure Jim Evans will enjoy adding the legs just to annoy Kev Peart :)
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  4. jenghiz Active Member

    Thanks for clarifying what you received from Sergey and his omission of the tassel and strap that indeed one could make.However the face guard is different from the original showing,presumably Sergey's addition.None of my comments were intended as criticism but observations and I will certainly be buying one Martin.
  5. War Griffon Active Member

    That's OK :D

    I hadn't seen the work for this that Sergey had posted on here or for that matter knew he had posted progress work of this piece here on PF. The photos I have of this are what he posted on Facebook a lot of the helmet detail that is on this model isn't on the photos that I have. The tassel for the horses head is in the kit so all you need to do is use foil/copper/lead to make the straps.

  6. BobLff257 A Fixture

    Full marks to you Martyn for marketing something innotive and different, hope you do well with it.

    Rob (y)
  7. TADATSUGU Guest

    Sorry. I've said elsewhere that I have trouble getting my head around half figures. I like to think of myself as tolerant but when I saw this my first thought was "they're taking the p#@*. I'm not commenting on the sculpt. but the concept leaves me cold. What's coming next? Bi-laterally sectioned. left or right sided figures? Enough!
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  8. Mariobusta A Fixture

    I'm with you David . If this was a whole figure I would have picked it up, as I would love a mounted 90mm Mongol . Still each to their own .
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  9. yellowcat A Fixture

    Like the old Wendy's 1984 TV commercial "Where's the beef". The concept is just awful, should be a full figure at the first place. The Mongolian Horse Archer doesn't looks like a Mongol and the horse is a wrong breed.
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  10. Barry King Member

    Finally, some voices of reason! These off the chart "bust" concepts are now bordering on the absurd, and this one, takes the proverbial cake. It's bad enough that "action" busts are being released almost weekly, but having a sectional horse and 2/3 of a rider is just very odd, if not downright strange. Make the figure a full figure, if you must, or, a traditional bust if that is the desire, but 1/2 or 2/3 figures, to my way of thinking are not only unsightly to view, but laughable in concept.
    Sorry to be harsh, it's not my intention, but honest feedback should be welcomed.
  11. elanlane13 A Fixture

    I find some of the reactions to this piece rather offensive. It is certainly different and experimental in its concept and I can understand that some people won't like that and may feel the concept doesn't work and they have every right to give their opinion. But I can assure you that it is beautifully sculpted ( I had the pleasure of working on it to repair a breakage before it was cast) and rather than reacting as if someone has just insulted you by daring to produce something different, should we not enjoy the fact that there are so many different subjects and different ways of portraying them in our little hobby.
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  12. housecarl A Fixture

    Well said Rob.
    Simple solution.
    If you don't like it, don't buy it.:cautious:
  13. Helm A Fixture

    Couldn't agree more Rob I guess some people just want the usual flogged to death streams of the same figure with a slightly different hat endlessly looping ad nauseum. Me I think it's great somebody will take a chance and do an out of the ordinary figure I for one will buy it and hope some of the more mainstream companies take a chance now and again. In summation it falls back on the same theme of put up or shut up if you can do better do so, if you can't don't fault something for being different if it's inaccurate thats fine I don't have a problem with that at all if it's because you don't like the style that's up to you
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  14. arxo Active Member

    Really like this one. Very original. Gonna look it up for certain.
  15. garyhiggins A Fixture

    You pretty much sum things up Rob, if no one did anything experimental or conceptual, we'd still all be playing with Britains Hollow Cast.
    Best wishes, Gary.
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  16. Tommy Brown Active Member

    To comment or not to comment on this new 1/2 bust 3/4figure. I think all Planeteers have the freedom to express oneself in the forum. This is a out of the box and something different in the figure market. We have to consider: Does the 1/2 bust 3/4figure works base on the design. Overall is the whole design balance. Does it need the rear of the horse to support the rest of the figure? Is it historically correct?
    You can always "If you don't like it, don't buy it". But you can also if you don't like it, you can comment on it.
    Doesn't matter if it is a positive or negative comment. Just don't be afraid to express yourself!
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  17. Shane Rozzell Active Member

    Having seen this in the 'resin' so to speak, two weeks ago I can honestly say it's brilliant. The detail is excellent, both the original and what Rob has added and I look forward to getting mine and chucking some paint on it. As for the bust 'police'... I didn't know there were rules as to what makes a bust or not.
  18. housecarl A Fixture

    I agree.
    I don't like it, but I didn't feel the need to post to say so.
    I was taught if you have anything nice to say, then say nothing.:cautious:
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  19. Wayneb A Fixture

    Like this piece as much as I don't like it...3/4 angle looks good....side view.,the base is too overwhelming.....
    Still like it....maybe if the sides of base were sculpted with with a relief relative to the figure.......just my thoughts.......Wayne
  20. Tommi A Fixture

    Great idea and something different in the market place. I am sure that other manufactures will latch onto this idea and we will have a surge of new figures on the market based on this idea.

    Well done on this. Nice sculpt and sure this will set a new trend for future releases.

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