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WIP Miniart Samurai

Discussion in 'vBench (Works in Progress)' started by valiant, Oct 18, 2021.

  1. valiant A Fixture

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    United-Kingdom
    Hi folks,

    Some progress pics on my Miniart samurai. I know this kit has its drawbacks and I really dont know how accurate it is, but it looks right to me! Still loads to do, matting bits down, painting the knots and lacing and still some detail painting to complete...

    Thanks for looking(y)

    246059299_1641326422865072_5519422050465137363_n.jpg 245989705_1641326239531757_1876696922190109439_n.jpg 245963684_1641326302865084_109500911188429983_n.jpg
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  2. Warren SMITH A Fixture

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    Australia
    Very nice work. Ive always balked at this one as its seen some bad press with fit etc.. Be good to see how you finish him..
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  3. Oda A Fixture

    Regardless of what this kit is or isn't,your work on it is really good.

    Oda.
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  4. Cannonball A Fixture

    Great job so far Steve. Like the patterns and free hand work.

    Neal
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  5. misfit151 A Fixture

    Looking really good Steve.....(y). Mike
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  6. Nap Moderator

    Country:
    England
    Hi Steve

    Fair play to you , certainly coming on and very colourful ........good modelling from you sorting out the issues with the kit

    Nice patterning and colour choices

    Look forward to more updates

    Happy benchtime

    Nap
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  7. Banjer A Fixture

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    England
    As I have posted several times this kit comes and goes on my bench but this super job has encouraged me to bring it out again.
    Very nicely done.

    Cheers
    Bill
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  8. valiant A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Thanks for the good comments, chaps! Ive done some modifications to the kit, including resculpting the face, but nothing hugely taxing to the average modeller. I picked the kit up cheap, as it had been started, so I disassembled the bits and had to deal with some of the seams which had been butchered by the previous owner! Some of the parts needed thinning down as they were very bulky and I reshaped the sword and cut a chunk off the scabbard which way way too long! As Ive said, it may not be the most accurate representation of a samurai, but for the money, you cant really beat it!!(y)
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  9. OldTaff PlanetFigure Supporter

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    England
    Great piece of work, Steve. You have endeavoured to persevere , and it has been rewarded.

    Alan
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  10. Peter Day PlanetFigure Supporter

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    Really very nice and congratulations on managing to get it built - I've tried twice and failed.
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  11. Chris Oldfield A Fixture

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    England
    Excellent work, Steve - I like the combinations of blues & purples in the armour.
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  12. Scott Sheltz Well-Known Member

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    United-States
    Great looking paint work and nice job on the rescue of this kit.
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  13. NeilW A Fixture

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    United-Kingdom
    Nice work so far (y)

    This pic shows the challenges of modelling/painting Japanese armour (at any scale) :eek:
    Od7.JPG
    However, some thoughts ref the lacing (odoshi).

    As the vertical laces support the row of laminae beneath it, the upper row of lacing would be the same as the upper lace above it. There were many variations on lacing but during the Age of Warring States (Sengoku Jidai: c1467-1615) plain basic colours (often dark blues) and simplified armour, often with solid lames and widely spaced lacing were popular as they were more functional.

    MiniArt don't give a date, but looking at it (and yes, there are many errors), it looks like a fairly early one, perhaps the most likely lacing method for the figure may be:
    Od5.JPG

    See refs below, mainly from Abselon's book on cuirasses (do) show lacings and colour variations:
    Od1.JPG Od2.JPG Od6.JPG
    Od3.JPG Od4.JPG

    There are many useful web links, eg:
    5. The Odoshi — Sengoku Daimyo
    Samurai Painting Guide Part I: Clothes and Armour - KRIGET KOMMER (weebly.com)
    The Evolution of Japanese Armour -- myArmoury.com

    ... and if you want overkill (and can read Japanese script):
    https://archive.wul.waseda.ac.jp/kosho/ke05/ke05_00230/ke05_00230_0001/ke05_00230_0001.html
    https://archive.wul.waseda.ac.jp/kosho/ke05/ke05_00230/ke05_00230_0002/ke05_00230_0002.html

    Restorers sites also give invaluable information and show the mechanics of lacing etc:
    katchushi.com
    David Thatcher – Katchushi Koubou – Japanese Samurai Armour Studio (yoroi.uk)


    Otherwise, the figs swords are wrongly mounted. For much of the earlier period the main sword (tashi) would be suspended from the waist and a dagger (tanto, later a longer uikushi) thrust through the waist belt (and spare bow string holder if using a bow).
    od10c.JPG od9.JPG
    (this also shows the long no-dashi sword, as used by kikushio on Seven Samurai and the bow string holder)

    In the later period, the longer (katana- a little shorter than a tashi and better for fighting on foot) and the short sword (wakizashi- the two together known as a daisho) would be diagonally thrust though the sash (obi) with the blades uppermost. This was especially a fashion when wearing 'civvies' .
    od11.JPG od10.JPG

    However, throughout the period there were many ways of mounting the swords and the 'old' and new styles (tashi/katana; tanto/wakizashi) could be mixed (suspended best if on horseback) as:
    od13.JPG Od8.JPG

    The shoulder guards (sode) don't look right either (the refs above give refs)


    BoL
  14. Nap Moderator

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    England
  15. valiant A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Thanks for the references, Neil - this was an itch that needed scratching, like the Roman I did a while back, but I shant be doing any more samurai. Been there, done that, now!!(y)
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  16. NeilW A Fixture

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    United-Kingdom
    ...ah, fine: thought you were still working on it :)



    I've weighed up this fig several times and always decided against buying it :(
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