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Metal Models fixing reins

Discussion in 'General Figure Talk' started by Pilgrim53, Feb 18, 2020.

  1. Pilgrim53 Member

    Does anybody have any tips for fixing the free end of the reins for mounted metalmodeles figures.
    Finishing figure of Murat and trying to get the best connection of reins to the stub on the right hand!

    Many Thanks
  2. fogie A Fixture

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    United-Kingdom
    Several years ago Bryan Fosten published something that might be of interest. Although his article was recognised
    as accurate for the British Army, it was pointed out by Eugene Leliepvre no less that the French did things differently.
    Hopefully this might explain things...........

    Fosten.png



    Mike
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  3. Pilgrim53 Member

    Many thanks for this; this reference I have in the Historex catalogue. My problem is one of modelling techniques, but thanks anyway.
  4. fogie A Fixture

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    United-Kingdom
    If you have the later Historex catalogues, you'll see there is a whole section showing detailed drawings of a
    number of different harness arrangements....... so I guess that I don't understand the question. What do you
    mean by 'modelling techniques' ?
  5. Pilgrim53 Member

    I am looking for tips on how to physically attach the trailing reins ends to the stub on the hand of the figure; given there is very little surface area to connect to!
  6. fogie A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Metal Modeles provide a section of malleable foil for you to produce the reins - cut to size and cyano it to the the underside of the little
    finger (the model's little finger of course...not yours:)) Make a loop on a small second piece and pop it between the thumb and forefinger,
    as shown in your reference material. It's a bit fiddly but not difficult. I only wish there was some sort of mystical secret known to a chosen
    few about this, but alas...............

    Mike
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  7. DaddyO A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Hi Pilgrim
    Just finished a couple of these figures so I know what you mean.
    I've replaced the reins with thick paper which has been painted so it's a little easier to attach, but I found that if you use the tip of a scalpel blade (10a) you can push a small slot into the underside of the hand which makes it easier to fix the ends of the reins. (Of course if you are being accurate you'll need to push it into the outside/bottom edge and another slot between the last two fingers as shown on Fogies post - anyone who rides will tell you that this is the way to hold a rein)
    I use PVA as an adhesive, but you may need to use superglue for lead strip reins (Make sure you scrape the paint away where the glue is going with superglue especially and touch up afterwards)
    Hope that helps
    Paul

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  8. Pilgrim53 Member

    Thanks guys; given me some ideas. Happy modelling.
  9. blaster Active Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Hi Guys,

    Thanks for raising and clarifying this.

    I note the differences between the British and French method of holding the straps. I am only keen on exploring the "Napoleonic period" method of harness.

    I am looking for further confirmation on the following:

    1. Are the bit and bridoon straps each a single strap or two straps hitched (with buckled?) or tied together?
    Fosten's drawings show each as a single strap but the photos show two straps tied together.

    2. The Historex drawing shows a halter strap being secured to the saddle on the left side.
    Historex also supplies a plastic shape which can be used to simulate this complex secured mode.
    Is it always the case that the halter strap is very long and needs to be secured this way or a simpler mode of securing the strap? Is it always secured on the left side?


    Rgds Victor
  10. fogie A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Have a look at this Victor, it's by Eugene Leliepvre and might explain things, As for the halter he tells us that it was always secured on
    the left (mounting side).

    Harness.png

    Mike
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  11. DaddyO A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Possibly this is simply because most riders are right handed which means that it will be more logical when it is unfastened to hold in the right hand whilst leading the horse (on your right hand side) :unsure:

    Cheers
    Paul
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  12. blaster Active Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Hi Mike and Paul,

    Thanks again for the clarity.

    Rgds Victor

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