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WIP Maori bust in progress

Discussion in 'vBench (Works in Progress)' started by Canoehead, Aug 18, 2022.

  1. Canoehead Active Member

    Initial basecoat in oils with first shadow and highlight work. Any comments and advice appreciated.

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  2. kagemusha A Fixture

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    Only comment I would offer...an absolutely first class start (y)

    Ron
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  3. Canoehead Active Member

    Thanks Ron - was a bit concerned that the tone was too coppery overall.

    Cheers,
    Brian
  4. Larsen E. Whipsnade A Fixture

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    Great start. The shading of the flesh tones is first rate.
    Rick
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  5. santi fernandez Well-Known Member

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    Great start, you can see where the paint is going to go and the final result.
    Santi.
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  6. Steve Ski A Fixture

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    Yep. the flesh tones are spot on from here. Ruck On!
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  7. Mike - The Kiwi A Fixture

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    Great start Brian & liking olive tones.
    I tend to use Raw Sienna as base tone, with Raw Umber shadows.
    Recommend checking art of Charles F. Goldie & Gottfried Lindauer both renown artists of contemporary Māori from late 19th & early 20th Cent.
    Examples attached mate.
    Trust this helps & am sure as surrounding colours with ta Moko it will just evolve together.
    MikeTheKiwi
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  8. Canoehead Active Member

    Thanks Mike - I'll try some greeny-brown (I usually use Raw Umber) in the shadows next.

    Thanks for the references as well - they'll come in handy. Quite the variety of tones from one individual to the next - a challenge for sure.

    Cheers,
    Brian
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  9. Nap A Fixture

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    England
    Hi Brian

    Loving this start , liking the flesh so far look forward to seeing more after your shadows

    Great to see Mikes advice as well

    Always liked this bust ...a classic IMO

    Following this with much interest

    Happy benchtime

    Nap
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  10. TERRYSOMME1916 A Fixture

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    Nice smooth work with the oils and following your progress and the comments from the PF members with great interest.
    TERRY
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  11. Tony Dawe PlanetFigure Supporter

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    Hi Brian
    I recently purchased this bust again, having painted it many years ago.

    I can only commend you for your work so far and encourage you to be bold and brave as you tackle the painting of ta moko.

    I suggest you do plenty of research. As Mike said, the Lindauer paintings are an excellent source of reference. Good luck. I’ll be following your progress with great interest.

    Tony
  12. Tony Dawe PlanetFigure Supporter

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    Back in 2018 I had the privilege of visiting the Auckland Art Museum with Mike Bulter to view the Lindauer Maori portraits in person. I was so deeply moved by the impact of these paintings I bought this book for future reference. If you see any images you like, send me a PM and I can send you enlarged photos of ta moko to assist you with accuracy.
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  13. Canoehead Active Member

    Thanks Tony - much appreciated. At this stage I was mostly concerned with the overall flesh tone before moving on to other stages of the project but it's gratifying to hear from you and others that I seem to be generally on the right track.

    I might tap your experience with this bust and your kind offer of images from the Lindauer book as I get closer to the ta moko stage of the project. The old thread on this project here on pF has been a gold mine of insight and info!

    Thanks again for the advice,
    Cheers,
    Brian
  14. Canoehead Active Member

    Added a bit of Mars Brown into the shadows: IMG_7861_Original.JPG IMG_7863_Original.JPG
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  15. Mike - The Kiwi A Fixture

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    A very special time I remember fondly Tony.
    My copy sits on book shelf as reminder of the visit & seeing the real Lindauer’s up close together.
    Trust you & your family are well as our weird world keeps spinning.
    MikeTheKiwi
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  16. Mike - The Kiwi A Fixture

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    That’s effective Brian & reduces coppery, towards more olive complexion. Keep it coming!
    MikeTheKiwi
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  17. Steve Ski A Fixture

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    That green seems to be doing the trick. I saw an article awhile back about starting with green. Not being traditionally trained, other than from me Mum, it's a difficult concept to wrap the 'ol cabesa round, if ya know what I mean. The matt hair line brings it all into focus. Looks great, Brian.
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  18. Nap A Fixture

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    England
    Hi Brian

    Cracking up date on the flesh , really enjoying this

    Interesting you've not done the eyes yet

    So tempted by this piece

    Looking forward to seeing more

    Happy benchtime

    Nap
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  19. Canoehead Active Member

    Thanks Nap - white knuckle fun trying to get a flesh tone that feels satisfactory - getting great advice from pF members with greater experience than I. I'm taking a mental break from the flesh for a bit to work on other bits; I know I'll be returning to tweak/mess up/tweak/etc. the flesh as I go.

    As the attached photo shows, I started on the basic eyes in acrylics. Oil refinements to come.

    Thanks for checking in,

    Brian IMG_5205.JPG
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  20. Mike - The Kiwi A Fixture

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    Coming along nicely & basic eyes positioning has a sereneness.
    For Tiki pendant google up ‘pounamu’
    MikeTheKiwi
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