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Discussion in 'vBench (Works in Progress)' started by Figure Mad, Jan 15, 2006.

  1. Figure Mad Well-Known Member

    Hi Guys

    I have had a slight problem with a dull coat that I have had to use on a figure, I have used it before and it was well mixed, I paint in the same conditions all year round and I used distilled water as usual. So when I used this dull coat from Windsor and Newton, its a matt acrylic varnish, it just left a matt white transluescent residue over the figure, unfortunately I now have to repaint it.

    What I want to know is, do Testors do a dull coat that can be thinned, or is there anywhere that I can get a couple of spray cans of Testors Dull coat, I have used this before and its the best dull coat I have ever used. I am now in desperte need of aquiring this from somewhere. being in the UK it has become very difficult to get a hold of for some reason...

    Can anybody help

  2. gordy Well-Known Member

    I do not know if Testors Dullcote is still lacquer based or not, but I have seen the same anomaly occur before first hand.. for me it was a chemical reaction of the target surface being acrylic and the DullCote being not..

    Fret not though, I would recommend highly Windor and Newtons " Acrylic Matte Varnish"

    Link: http://www.pearlpaint.com/shop~parentID~86...goryID~8661.htm

    BTW, when I was working for Verlinden Francois would brush paint the matte varnish all over the masters prior to casting, it settle without brush strokes and was dead matte. contrary to popular belief that masters should be slick and glossy the matte varnish released from rubber much easier, like Non-Stick skillet, where as the glossy parts never let go of the rubber and tore.. kinda like how a suction cup works better on glass than a chalkboard ;)
  3. lolok Active Member

    I agree about testors being the flattest matt but here in Poland I can only get in the 50ml bottles.Well mixed it has no equal.
    Another good choice i found recently is the acrylic spray by MR HOBBY or Gunze..Comes in gloss,satin and a very good dead flat matt.A couple of good model shops here in Warsaw stock it so london or other hooby stores back home in blighty should have it....
    As an aside....There is a very good figure company here that deserves wider coverage.It is called M-MODELS and produces some fantastic figures and vignettes,particularly Napoleonics.Also their 90mm Polish winged Hussar is a beauty...
    If you want to see it I can send a pic of mine at the Polish Military museum to anyone who wants a look..My picture posting skills are prehistoric I'm afraid.
    Ex-pat Brit in Warsaw with the best job in the World.
    ( Making Models for the new Museum of the Warsaw Uprising)
  4. KeithP Active Member

    Don't know if it is avail in UK but I have been using Model Master Acrylic Flat for years with nary a complaint or problem. Used it over oils and acrylics both air brush and brush.

    I like the testors can too but could not stand the fumes....

  5. DaveCox Member

    I use the Windsor & Newton varnishes, and often find that the matt varnish is very picky about the base coat. If used over oils it dries dead flat, but over semi-gloss paints such as I used on my Korean Warrior, then it still dries semi-gloss.
    I'm starting a new bottle soon and will see if there's any improvement. Any tips here anybody?
  6. PJ Deluhery Active Member

    At one time Dullcoat (and Glosscoat) was available in glass bottles for use in an airbrush or to brush on. (I still have some old bottles that I probably should throw out.) I don't kow if it still is available in this packaging. I got mine at my local hobby shop. I'd say ask around and check the internet.

    Over the years I have had problems on and off with the spay can of Dullcoat - especially the white milky residue. Sometimes I have been lucky enough to remove it with tupentine or Testor's brush cleaner/solvent just by brushing this over the milky area adn wiping it with a soft cloth. I have tried all the theories about heating the figure, heating the can, etc. to no avail. Seems to me that it just reacts to certain kinds of paint under certain conditions. I can't predict when, and I'm not willing to gamble.

    Since Dullcoat is so unpredictable (IMHO) I swithced to Modelmaster Lusterless Flat. I have had no problems with this for the last two years, and would highly recommend this product.

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