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I have a problem

Discussion in 'Just starting...' started by pava, Jul 28, 2011.

  1. pava Member

    Country:
    Croatia
    I have a problem with matt lacquer when I paint my figures with it to remove shine and protect color they have more shine than before painting them with matt lacquer does it need to be mixed with thinner or some other stuff or is it the problem with lacquer or what else please help
  2. housecarl Moderator

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Are you using Testors Dominik?
    Carl.
  3. pava Member

    Country:
    Croatia
    yes i do why?
  4. housecarl Moderator

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
  5. pava Member

    Country:
    Croatia
    yes it did thanx i think i change the manufacturer the problem is that in my country we have Testors little of lifecolor and tamiya paints and I found only Testors matt lacquer in my country now i have to order from outside or look in art shops or something like that but thank you very much Carl for your help
  6. housecarl Moderator

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    What paints are drying shiny Dominik? If they're acrylics, try using a touch of Tamiya X21 flat base, not too much as it will turn the paint chalky. I always use it in green, blue, yellow and red. Colours that I've found tend to go glossy. It works, everytime for me.
    Carl.
  7. pava Member

    Country:
    Croatia
    I bought Tamiya X21 flat base just today but all my colors are enamel i think 1 is acrylic but I still need matt lacquer to keep my paint safe so that doesn't change much the fact that I still matt lacquer but thank you again
  8. Mike S. Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    I'll make a confession here, and this is going to sound nuts (Cue the Art Bell/Coast to Coast music):

    I have noticed that you get the best, dead flat results when you spray Dullcoat outdoors when the weather is cooler, and then quickly shoot it with a blast from a hair dryer set to warm.

    Of course this is high near impossible to do with this heat wave we are having all across the US right now, but I usually wait until later in the night on the cooler evenings to spray during the summer.

    Works every time for me. Perhaps the more science oriented among us can explain any logic behind this that may exist.
  9. pava Member

    Country:
    Croatia
    than you need to buy air conditioner so you can have cooler temperature in your home so you don't need to go outside when it is raining or snowing :ROFLMAO: your method sounds good if you say it works(y) thanx
  10. Mike S. Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    I'm in the southern US. I would be quite dead if I lacked an air conditioning. ;)
    Seriously, I'm talking about much cooler temperatures, say in the 50s Fahrenheit or cooler.

    I DID say it sounded crazy.

    [IMG]
  11. Carlos69 Well-Known Member

    Country:
    England
    This is my method of spraying Testors Dullcote.Works every time... thouroughly shake then stir contents.Then dilute with a 50/50 mix of white spirit and cellulose thinner,dust on with the airbrush they lightly,building up several very thin layers,flash each layer off by pressing down the trigger but not back for paint.You will see it drys ultra flat the second it flashs off on the surface. The cellulose thinner has never reacted with dry oils,enamels.acrylics etc.

    Works every single time when I use this method.And I have tried a million varnishes and methods etc...:eek:

    I only ever use the bottle stuff and airbrush by the way and never the rattle cans...
  12. DEL A Fixture

    Country:
    Scotland
    50s Fahrenheit .... toasty.
    You are indeed Fox Mulder on a wtness protection programme.
    Cheers
    Derek
  13. pava Member

    Country:
    Croatia
    Where should I find white spirit and cellulose thinner I guess in art shop? you mix white spirit and cellulose thinner 50/50 but what should be ratio of mixing Testors Dullcote and that mixture
  14. Carlos69 Well-Known Member

    Country:
    England
    Pava,white spirit is used for thinning oil based paints,oils,enamels etc... I get mine from B & Q which is a diy type shop that sells decorating materials,it is very cheap by the litre bottle.Cellulose thinner I buy from a car paint shop place,as it is used(or use to be) in the automotive industry etc.. It comes in a large tin but works out very cheap in the long run,I use it all the time with enamels through the airbrush,use it also to clean the airbrush so is exellent to keep on the bench. (very flammable and smells very strong)

    Regards thinning Dullcote,it is quite thin out of the bottle but thin it a little more to the consistency of whole milk. I cannot remember exactly just experiment untill it is like milk,it's probally not as much as 50/50 Dullcote to thinner.

    Hope you sort it. I never worry about a true matt Finnish now with this stuff !
  15. pava Member

    Country:
    Croatia
    ok thanx for the information I know how to thin colors for airbrush it is must be like density of a milk so now I see it is the same with dullcote thanx(y)
  16. valiant A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    hi Domimik,
    ive had a similar problem for years - i only ever use enamels, but have found that if you apply a thinned coat of satin varnish (white spirit) first, allow to dry thoroughly, then apply your matt coat. it will work as intended. have had no problems since!
  17. Steve Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    I have had success with Testors by warming the can in hot water for a few minutes. Obviously not long enough to make it go off, but a couple of minutes. It comes out as a superfine mist and I have had no problems since I tried it this way.--
  18. pava Member

    Country:
    Croatia
    i have fixed the problem first i shake the bottle of matt lacquer than i mix some lacquer with airbrush thinner from model master shake that mixture and spray it with airbrush and it did his job good(y)

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