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Husar H3 finished

Discussion in 'vBench (Works in Progress)' started by conny, Nov 5, 2005.

  1. conny Active Member

    Country:
    Germany
    Hi all,

    @Walt: The oil paints are for the horse, Cobalt violet, burnt umbra, cadmium orange, neaples yellow deep and ultramarine blue deep.

    At first paint the shadows of the horse with cobalt violet over the white under painting. So you get a horse nearly a black and white drawing and it`s look round. Now let it dry for 2 or 3 days. Now paint burnt umbra over the hole horse but verry thin, during the under painting with violet looks now the shadows deeper. Now use cadmium orange for the first lights on the horse paint every time from your imagine hightliht to the shadows and verry thin. If have paint the horse complete let it dry for one day. On the next day repeat the same process from the day before with burnt umbra and orange, now you pleace hightlights with neaples yellow deep but everytime from the hightlight to the shodows. By this horse I have repeat the painting four times. At last make the shape shadows with a mix of burnt umbra ,violet and a little ultramarine blue.

    I hope you can understand my bad english. Have fun by painting.

    @All guys: So many thanks for your help and kindley comments.

    Cheers
    Conny ;)
  2. Jim Patrick Active Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Dario, I think you missed the point here. I'll try to pose the question a different way. You obviously have a working knowledge of the horse anatomy (something which, personally, I have nothing of! :lol: ) so, armed with this knowledge, what would you have had Conny do different? Short of tossing to the flat in the trash I mean. Given the the flat was painted and finished, what should the painter/sculptor (or for that matter, the rest of us) do differently? What can we do to fix these errors? Again, short of throwing it in the trash. We here on pF need to remember that choosing a figure, colors and to what extent we want to paint (or even NOT paint) is an individual thing. Any help I can get from all of the membership is a bonus. ANYTHING you guys give me to improve a figure will be applied to my efforts as I'm sure applies to the rest of you. Give advice and reccomend what YOU would do to fix it but advice that follows the path of "toss it in the can" will fall on deaf ears. It always has and always will. Who am I to tell any of you what constitutes a "worth while" figure and the same vice versa? Perhaps even showing us examples of what you have painted/sculpted. So to bring us back to the original point, Dario, your criticism (based on your expertise) is most welcome. Just keep the "constructive" in your criticism please.

    Jim Patrick

    Completely forgot to mention...... :( . I know I said it before but I'll say it again (so the thread of such a well painted flat doesn't get hijacked) Conny, I just sit here in front of my screen and marvel at your flat. I'm envious of those members here that live around you and can see this in the flesh. I'd LOVE to!
  3. Paul Kernan A Fixture

    Country:
    Canada
    Konrad:

    Stunning! For me flats are the most intimidating form within our hobby and you have made it even more so. Ok, sculpting too :lol:

    I have downloaded this pic and I continue to be amazed by the smoothness and contrasts of your work. What scale is the piece?

    You paint oil over white primer. I have tried this in the past with little success. It always comes out looking grainy, so I revert back to undercoating with approximate acrylic tones. Any suggestions as I really like the vibrance oils have when painted this way especialy in small scale and of course, flats.
  4. conny Active Member

    Country:
    Germany
    Hello Paul,
    the flat hve the scale 54mm.

    I use a special primer of Windisch,

    Windisch Webpage.

    For me this is the best primer, you get a smooth and sucking undercoating.
    I begin with deepest colour and paint up the lights step by step and verry thin.

    Example: A light yellow
    Basecolor: Chrom yellow deep + Cobaltviolett + Parisblue
    You get a brownish yellow, paint the whole surface with this color. Now use Chrom yellow deep for the first light, paint every from your imagine hightlight to the shadow. If you have paint the surface ready let it dry for one or tow day`s.
    Now you repeat the same from the day before but verry thin. Now you can go higher with the lights with Chrom yellow light and for the absolut highlight Brillant yellow.

    [IMG]

    For this flat I have repeat the same painting 6 times.
  5. Opsofficer New Member

    (DISCLAIMER: This is said in a very calm and friendly fashion and is not intended as an attack or flame or any such stupidity and is meant to edify not to tear down.) ;)

    @ All: Dario makes some very good and valid points! If his points fall on deaf ears to future sculpting endeavors, then that will be a shame and loss for us all. The flaw in his post was in the way it was presented (worded), not in the content.

    It is obvious that the miniature was sculpted from the picture. If the sculptor is making a copy of a picture and the picture is wrong, then the sculpted piece will also be wrong.

    TO put it very simply, one must keep in mind that with flats (as with some paintings) the subject may be slightly distorted to show some detail or for a three dimensional effect, hence the less than accurate conformation or appearance.

    @ Dario: Nice to see someone else with this knowledge here! I can see where the other guys are coming from in how your messages were initially presented. Though your initial communication was perceived as being worded harshly, I do not see that it was intended to be so. Quite the contrary, I clearly see that it was intended to educate and inform. Thanks for the information and the links.

    @ Konrad: As stated previously, I think the painting is simply beautiful! I love flats and think you have done a tremendous job painting this one - Well done! Thanks for showing us the picture also. Thanks for the painting instruction, too!

    @ All again: Finally, I think that correction or criticism - unless asked for specifically - should be kept to PM's or e-mail to avoid needless confrontation (as has been somewhat unfairly directed at Dario).

    Just MY thoughts on all this. ;)

    Justin :)
  6. Opsofficer New Member

    Konrad,

    The Trumpeter is also beautiful!

    I am glad to see flats presented on Planetfigure in this way! Thank you and please show us more of your inspiring work!

    Justin :)
  7. gordy Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Excellent paint and brushwork (y)

    Dario, your insight on horses anatomy is much appreciated and I do not see the criticism as too harsh. Information like you posted is a great asset and helps us all better our works. Perhaps an in depth horse anatomy article? ;)

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