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WIP Horse with Hungarian saddle.

Discussion in 'Sculpting' started by svt, May 31, 2021.

  1. Martin Rohmann A Fixture

    Country:
    Germany
    Hungarian saddle...:

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    Cossack saddle...:

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    The basic structure of both saddles was very similar. But the "Hungarian" was, so to speak, "feathered" - which took over a pillow for the Cossack saddle.

    Both saddles had one thing in common: One could ride long distances without horse or rider getting "sore" - and they had few metal parts that could rattle and thus reveal the rider's position ...


    Cheers
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  2. svt Well-Known Member

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    Russian-Federation
    Yes, thanks, i am aware of the difference between these types of saddles and their similarities.

    If you are interested, then here are the drawings of the Cossack saddle of the late 19th century, in principle, its design has not radically changed since the 16th century, so it is relevant with some details for virtually any period of the history of the cossacks. (Unfortunately, I had to reduce the size of the pictures, because the forum did not want to accept files with more than 10k horizontal pixels for upload.)

    седло казачье 1895 г. 003.jpg седло казачье 1895 г. 004.jpg
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  3. Martin Rohmann A Fixture

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    Germany
    Many thanks Sergej!

    Any Cossack stuff is most welcome to me!!!


    Cheers
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  4. blaster Well-Known Member

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    United-States
    Hi Martin and Svt,

    Thanks for these different saddle types.

    Rgds Victor.
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  5. Nap A Fixture

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    England
    Hi svt and Martin

    Thanks for the pictures and the detailed modelling this is a interesting thread

    I enlarged the 2 pics hopefully easier to view

    Look forward to more updatedps

    Nap
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  6. NeilW A Fixture

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    Fantastic work :)(y):woot:

    As others have said "A shame to cover this with the shabaraque !"

    How about modelling it as a trooper in the process of saddling up?

    Then the full glory of your saddle would be on display (I'd have him folding his horsecloth with the shabraque and other gear draped on a fence or stall-wall)
  7. svt Well-Known Member

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    Russian-Federation
    The second day I try to get myself ready to work after an illness with the help of rough exercises. Now everything is over - the covid has retreated, but there are still enough problems.

    Here I am making a base for horse. In general, the work is not particularly creative, it is more necessary for mechanical rehabilitation, and you also need to keep yourself occupied with something.

    The stand itself, as usual, is made of a two-component patti (Milliput in this case).
    rusnap_horsehusoff_009_(base_01).jpg
    With a clamp he squeezed between two plywood boards, aligned the edges - he got a flat workpiece. For the horse, i added brass wire pins to the hooves, marked the holes.
    rusnap_horsehusoff_009_(base_02).jpg rusnap_horsehusoff_009_(base_03).jpg
    I sculpted the horseshoes (but they are almost invisible).
    rusnap_horsehusoff_009_(base_04).jpg
    On the stand itself, I put a few irregularities with putty, after hardening of which I slightly dust the stand with sawdust on glue, and added a little small "crushed stone".
    rusnap_horsehusoff_009_(base_05).jpg

    That's all for now. Gradually I will restore my health and lost skills.
    All health, do not get sick!
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  8. Nap A Fixture

    Country:
    England
    Hi SVT

    Sorry to hear you've not been well , wishing you a quick time going better

    Thanks for the update ....so much care on the base ....horse shoes look good in place

    Happy health and sculpting

    Nap
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  9. svt Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Russian-Federation
    To restore my sculptural skills, yesterday i undertook to finish a shabrack for a hussar horse, which i had sculpted even before my covid, but i sculpted a scalloped edging yesterday, and today, i began to lay out laces with loops, and a monogram. It is difficult to sculpt yet.

    rusnap_horsehusoff_008_(valtrap_02).jpg rusnap_horsehusoff_008_(valtrap_03).jpg rusnap_horsehusoff_008_(valtrap_04).jpg rusnap_horsehusoff_008_(valtrap_05).jpg
  10. Nap A Fixture

    Country:
    England
    Goodness that's looking good so far

    Interesting to know how you work with such fine detail ...i.e. Monogram/ lacing

    As always pleasure to see your work

    Stay safe

    Nap
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  11. svt Well-Known Member

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    Russian-Federation
    I roll out the sculpting material very thinly, and then cut off thin strips, which i use as laces. If necessary, already in place, i remove the excess thickness with a model knife, a sharpened toothpick or special tools from sewing needles of various sizes and shapes.

    Hopefully, these footage from the video shows how this happens.
    00a.jpg 00b.jpg 00c.jpg 00d.jpg 00e.jpg 00f.jpg 00g.jpg 00h.jpg 00i.jpg
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  12. Scott Sheltz Active Member

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    United-States
    Outstanding work! The details based on the research is remarkable.
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  13. Viking Bob PlanetFigure Supporter

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    Sergej,
    Stunning work and in such a small scale. Beautiful.

    (y)(y)(y)(y)
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  14. svt Well-Known Member

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    Russian-Federation
    Thank you! )
    I am very glad that my work brings joy to others.
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  15. svt Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Russian-Federation
    For the manufacture of the stirrups of the Russian light cavalry, i used copper wire and soldering. To make it easier to bend chiseled arcs with a semicircular and square section, i pre-annealed the wire. After soldering, i attached the ready-made stirrups to the previously prepared stirrup leathers.

    rusnap_horsehusoff_010_(strirrup_01).jpg rusnap_horsehusoff_010_(strirrup_02).jpg rusnap_horsehusoff_010_(strirrup_03).jpg rusnap_horsehusoff_010_(strirrup_04).jpg rusnap_horsehusoff_010_(strirrup_05).jpg rusnap_horsehusoff_010_(strirrup_06).jpg rusnap_horsehusoff_010_(strirrup_07).jpg
  16. callmehobbes Active Member

    Country:
    England
    Just come across this -WOW! This is model making at its finest.
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  17. MCPWilk A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Absolutely superb modelling.

    Although this saddle was meant to spare horses from saddle sores it was said that during the Napoleonic Wars you could smell the French cavalry from quite a distance due to their horses' saddle sores. Apparently British cavalrymen were taught to regularly dismount and walk their horses whereas French cavalrymen rarely left their saddles...........

    Mike
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  18. Nap A Fixture

    Country:
    England

    Have a look at previous threads ...they are a WOW! as well !!


    svt,

    Many thanks for explaining how you work with the putty ........simply pure skill IMO

    Look forward to seeing more

    Happy benchtime

    Nap
  19. svt Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Russian-Federation
    Over the past few days, I made the second half of the shabrack, and also made new curb bit for the horse's bridle - it was time to update them.

    With a shabrack, everything is simple: only sculpting of a toothed lining, and sculpting of a lace and a monogram.
    rusnap_horsehusoff_008_(valtrap_06).jpg

    But the curb bit were made of flattened wire, soldered, and a little sculpted from "greenstuff". Yes, I also changed the shape of the horse's lips a bit for installing the curb bit.
    rusnap_horsehusoff_011_(mundshtuk_01).jpg rusnap_horsehusoff_011_(mundshtuk_02).jpg rusnap_horsehusoff_011_(mundshtuk_03).jpg rusnap_horsehusoff_011_(mundshtuk_04).jpg rusnap_horsehusoff_011_(mundshtuk_05).jpg rusnap_horsehusoff_011_(mundshtuk_06).jpg rusnap_horsehusoff_011_(mundshtuk_07).jpg rusnap_horsehusoff_011_(mundshtuk_08).jpg rusnap_horsehusoff_011_(mundshtuk_09).jpg rusnap_horsehusoff_011_(mundshtuk_10).jpg rusnap_horsehusoff_011_(mundshtuk_11).jpg

    The work on this horse will be finished soon - there is very little left.
  20. Nap A Fixture

    Country:
    England
    Hi svt

    That curb bit looks great , very clever modelling

    Thanks for sharing

    Nap
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