I don't know what it is, but other then viewing the works of others and the repetitious complements ; has PF become boring? Is it because of no more ruffling feathers with honest critique for fear of getting moderated? Or have we become so sensitive in general to speak our mind of how we really feel.? I must state that these are my personal thoughts and wonder if someone else has a differing opinion.
Keep it friendly....What do you think.?

Wayne

Enjoy it for what it is Wayne. Lovely pieces from some of the best, constant updates on what is new in the market, helpful advice on almost any associated subject for newcomers and experts alike, what more could you want?

Be honest, you would miss it if it wasn't there!?

Keith

Cheers

Don't reverse the question Nap.....................

I wouldn't say it is getting boring.
It still has all the help and Info it always had.
But I do miss the rep ar tee of Ron & Del when they got going.
And the cut and thrust that Paul ( Peedee) bought to the forum.
But things never stay the same.
Mick

As a recent returned having been absent for a couple of years I felt the dynamics had changed somewhat when I first browsed through the various pages. Certainly not boring though and I soon realised that the shift was just progress and general comings and goings, just as in real life. Martin still doing his history lessons in work in progress, Nap still doing his reviews and encouragement from all directions. And if anybody no longer here, well they clearly have their reasons and maybr, like me, they will come back in the future.

Looks like the time is right for the return of Bertorelli Enterprises.
As ever the plan is to offer the membership services that meet the range of needs, desires and wishes of our planet community.
As a responsible entrepreneur I take safety very seriously and as the bulk of the membership for some reason are against the use of animals and orphans to test products I relied on the use of Crash Test Ronnie.
Having disappeared for a while, Crash Test Ronnie has resurfaced under a new identity. His new job has allowed for a planned enterprise to raise its level of service to you the customer. Whilst he might be reluctant to participate I'm sure that the threat of public disclosure will have its usual result
As a bit of a teaser this particular project has been in preparation for a while and has made use of unemployed immigrants, the homeless and has made a contribution to keeping our small high street shops in business.
The second business is a whole new take on modelling which is bound to offend many, including modellers and painters as well as manufacturers and recasters.
I've checked out the legal position and I'm on safe ground
More to follow next week.
Cheers
DEL

For what we are about to receive in reply may the lord make us truly thankful
Mick

Are you marketing Brian's third hand again Del ?

......do you mean his extra thumb?.......if he had a third hand it doesn't bear thinking what he would do with it.

Boring? No.

Is there a lack of constructive criticism? I don't think so. And I don't think people refrain from offering constructive criticism, because they are afraid of "being moderated." Constructive criticism doesn't get moderated. Ad hominem attacks do, and perhaps there is less of that right now, and less drama and grenade-throwing, than there has been in the past. Those things run in cycles, and are also very dependent on the personalities of the people involved. Perhaps we're a little low right now on folks who have trouble keeping themselves to constructive criticism and opinions delivered objectively.

Prost!
Brad

I darn near look in on a daily basis. That don't mean I necessarily log in, but I do poke around like I said almost daily.

So my personal opinion is..........nope, it ain't boring!

Joe

Well, to be frank I do think there is a reduced level of debate. Critique is relatively quickly labeled 'rivet counting' or remains without response.
I actually valued the occasional flare-ups, as it often triggered me to further explore a topic.

So for me, still a great site with much to enjoy, but also more polite and gentle than before...kind of that great bar of years ago that now caters for kids as well. Nice, clean, safe and rather enjoyable, but.... ;-)

Adrian

Dear friend Derek.If i did have a third hand,i'd know exactly what to do with it.It would bring water to a glass eye
I would like to take this opperchancety to apologise to anyone with a third hand ,or a glass eye.No offence was meant.Honestly

I never said I didn't like it (PF)...........

Wayne

Hi Wayne.

Personally, I don't believe ruffling feathers and threads that become abusive make PF any more interesting. In fact they detract from the forum and are a distraction we can all do without. I believe the moderators are fair minded, so people ought not be concerned about expressing an honest view provided it is given courteously, and accepted in the spirit it is given.

For me the enjoyment and interest of PF includes:

• seeing the work of a large number of amazing painters, which spurs me on to paint;
• the ready advice that is provided that helps a novice like me improve in many ways;
• the exchange of ideas and the SBS threads among the more experienced members, which helps everyone;
• the news of new figures which results in a growing Grey Army;
• the reviews of products; and
• the chance to purchase or sell items, including some "Holy Grails" that are OOP, at a good price without the charges incurred by eBay.

For someone who lives Down Under where the figure hobby community is very small, products are not easily available or known about, figure shows are rare, and distances great PF fills this void, for which I am most grateful.

Added to this is the opportunity of cyber meeting a good many friendly and talented people, as well as meeting some in the flesh as a result of PF, and discussing issues with them. I might add I am not a regular figure painter - too involved in other activities but hopefully that is about to change and I can devote more time to this amazing hobby.

So IMO PF still offers an awful lot of interest to me, and keeps me in touch with the hobby.

Whether we can make it more interesting is up to us. Does anyone have any ideas on how this might be achieved?

I'll throw in some that may help - discussing painting techniques without being too precious about one's own preferences; providing information and opinions on products in new Tools of the Trade/Accessories thread, which is designed to put all such information in one section and making it easier to find, and providing information and opinion on sources in the Uniform Reference section.

Cheers
Chris