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Hank

Discussion in 'vBench (Works in Progress)' started by JCOX, Feb 29, 2004.

  1. KeithP Active Member

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    Jim-

    I will enjoy watching this come together. Aaron had tons of class and cajones.

    BTW , might I suggest either a Ernie Banks or Ron Santo subject for your next bust?

    Keith
  2. John Long Active Member

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    You're doin' good Jim. There is marked improvement in everything I've seen you do. Keep it up.
  3. Pete_H New Member

    Jim,
    Ah! Thanks for clarifying. Looking REALLY good so far ;)
  4. fsdesimone Member

    Jim,

    Looking very good so far. If this hasn't been mentioned by others in another thread somewhere, it's really good to have profile shots to compare to when working on a sculpt of a specific person. If you only have pictures taken from the front, even if you copy them exactly, sometimes it'll still look "off" because you don't have the angles and planes of the face quite right (and that's something you can determine from a side shot).

    People told me that and I ignored it at first to be honest, but it turned out to be very true.

    Francesca
  5. JCOX Active Member

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    Francesca,

    Very true! The Little Hand (indian bust) sculpt was based on a single straight-on picture (none other available). I learned real quick that a profile is essential (for me at least). Never leave home without it now. Very good advice. I will be posting some updates on Hank this weekend hopefully. How's your sea captain bust (sorry forgot the exact subject) coming along? Love to see some pics of your progress. From what I saw in Atlanta it looked very promising. (y)

    -jim cox
  6. Joe Hudson Well-Known Member

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    Hey Jim,

    Sorry to be late on the thread but it is looking really nice so far and I think you are starting to get the hang of this thing! I found this site and thought it may help you a little. http://www.sportingnews.com/archives/aaron/

    And for you Francesca, we would all love to see some in progress shots!

    Joe
  7. fsdesimone Member

    I haven't worked on it at all since returning from Atlanta. I have been devoting time to a new hockey figure. Actually, how do I get myself an individual thread like you fellas have to post pictures?

    Francesca
  8. Johan Well-Known Member

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    Belgium
    Hello Francesca,

    I believe the admin will give you a "workbench" or something for that.

    Look forward to seeing some of your sportsmen figures. I never saw your work, but I'm curious (y)

    Best regards,

    Johan
  9. JCOX Active Member

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    Here's some progress shots of Hank. His face is near done. Can't say I'm satisfied with it yet though. Any thoughts or comments would be greatly appreciated.

    -jim cox

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  10. JCOX Active Member

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    Here's a profile...

    -jim cox

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  11. Greg Bowman Member

    Jim,

    Looking good keep up the good work… (y)
  12. yeo_64 Well-Known Member

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    Hey James,GREAT job on the face ;I can't wait to see it painted ! Since you asked,perhaps a little more definition of the figure's facial creases would be needed here to conform more to the sketch of the person.(although I may be wrong since I'm just judging by the photos alone ) Just my 2 cents worth.Cheers !
    Kenneth
  13. fsdesimone Member

    Hey Jim - I'm not sure exactly what, but something about the cap looks slightly off to me (could be the picture of course though). It might be how the peak connects to the cap itself on the outside edges. Were you planning on trimming it down?
  14. JCOX Active Member

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    Thanks for the comments - MUCH appreciated!

    Kenneth, Hank (and negros in general) does not have very well defined features so I was being purposefully 'rounded'. This does not mean that more definition is not needed. I will keep your observation in mind as I proceed. I've included a couple of reference shots of Hank I'm working with.

    Francesca, I agree with your observation on the hat - looks a little too much like a batting helmet instead of a soft cap. I will be trimming it down and adding more indentations where the cap sits up off the head.

    Thanks again for the comments!

    Gordy, got a question for you... I'm not happy with the teeth (on my sculpt, not the pics below. ). Any comments/suggestions? I'm not sure if it's the teeth themselves or the anatomy of the mouth that's off. Looks like maybe the teeth are too far forward? (This question is open to anyone who would like to comment, I singled out Gordy because I love the 'teeth' work he did on his pirates. ) I can post better pics if needed.

    -jim cox

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  15. gordy Well-Known Member

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    Often, in a smile expression, the corners of the mouth pinch and tuck in, and the teeth are on a tighter oval inside the head. I would experiment with cutting the teeth in just the corners a tiny amount at a time and define the distinction of the teeth and give the cheek/smile some seperation and dimension.


    The smile Hank has in the photo you posted (the one on the right) Hank is sporting a "whats-that-smell-smile" that is the kinda of smile where the upper lip moves vertically with little lateral motion, and the nostrils flare, Tom Cruise is another person that does this type of smile.

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  16. JCOX Active Member

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    Thank you much Gordy! I will give your suggestion a try. Nice smile description as well!

    -jim cox
  17. Anders Heintz Well-Known Member

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    He is comming along great Jim!
  18. quang Active Member

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    Belgium
    Great progress, Jim! (y)

    I didn't think I should intervene until I saw your profile pic.

    The difference between the profile on your sculpt and the one on the picture is obvious. That also would explain your 'uneasiness' about the teeth.

    The problem is NOT in the teeth. It's in the angle and position of the lower jaw. It deals with the 'facial slope'. Will not waste your time any further explaining it here (the workbench).

    See you all on 'Sculpting'.

    (y)

    Quang
  19. JCOX Active Member

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    Quang,

    Precisely why I post profiles... ;)

    Please don't ever hesitate to intervene with ANY observations you may have. I welcome them! My goal is not to be merely a decent sculptor, but one day a very good sculptor. It may be years down the road, but that's the goal. Because of the comments and critiques from yourself and others on this site, I have been able to get further along in a short time than I could ever hope to be without it!

    -jim cox
  20. JCOX Active Member

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    Hey all,

    Finished Hank Aaron.

    -jim cox

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