Martin Antonenko
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The Republic Ends The Power Of The Church!
On December 9, 1905, a very important law came into force in France, which is still in force today or even has constitutional status!
The "Loi relative à la séparation des Eglises et de l’Etat" - "Law on the separation of church and state" ...:
After the unrest in France as a result of the Dreyfus affair, the parliamentary left had won the elections in 1902 - and they rightly saw the ruling Catholic Church (the clergy had practically the entire educational system in their hands!) as a refuge for the restoration and the backwardness!
(The famous affair finally ended with the complete rehabilitation of the wrongly convicted Captain Dreyfus and thus with a victory for the Republican side. You will read hier about it...)
The left was supported by the liberals, for whom the monarchist, anti-democratic, anti-parliamentary, nationalist, militant Catholic and anti-Semitic orientation of the church is also a thorn in the side.
The state is initially trying individual measures:
In July 1902, around 3000 non-state-approved church schools are closed ...:
This leads to violent public protests ...
... and 74 bishops signed a “protestation”. As a result, the government conscientiously stops paying bishops from state funds.
In March 1903 all male religious orders were dissolved ..:
But the church is circumventing the ban!
Numerous friars and religious fathers find refuge in so-called "alternative monasteries" abroad and in French colonies.
In July 1903: all female religious orders are dissolved or banned
Again the Church tries to evade the ban and founds new communities under different names.
On July 7th, 1904, the state closes this legal loophole and forbids the establishment of religious orders!
You have to know that these religious orders not only represented religious communities, but also formed politically established "clusters" that reached up to the top of the state and the military!
On December 9, 1905, the final blow against the Papal Church fell with the "Loi relative à la séparation des Eglises et de l’Etat", largely driven by the politician Georges Clémenceau.
The following cartoon shows Clémenceau guillotining the power of the Church ...:
France has been secular since that day, which has also been anchored in Article 1 of the Constitution of the Fifth French Republic since 1958.
The law is 1905 directed primarily against the papal church, but for reasons of neutrality all other denominations are also included in this regulation.
In contrast to Germany, for example, churches and religious communities are associations under private law, not corporations under public law, the state does not allow religious instruction in public schools, it prohibits the wearing of religious symbols in schools, it does not collect church taxes for the churches (the churches finance themselves otherwise) and the churches have no seat in broadcasting councils.
As a result, the Vatican breaks off diplomatic relations with the French Republic!
It was not until 1921 that they were resumed ...
Against the background of secularism in the state school system, for example, the dispute over the wearing of headscarves in French schools should be seen, which in 2005 led to the determination that pupils are not allowed to wear religious clothing or clear religious symbols in class - i.e. neither headscarves nor headscarves visible crucifixes around the neck!
Attempts by Islamic circles to break the ban by giving their daughters wigs instead of headscarves before going to school are now also banned!
The remains of the Catholic influence that once shaped the state are still not completely dead!
There are still many private schools in France run by the Catholic Church and which teach more than 20% of French students.
Although the Cionstitution (Article 140) also says "There is no state church", the German state still gives massive preference to the Catholic and Evangelical Churches by granting them the status of "Socially Relevant Groups" and all of them possible committees (e.g. broadcasting councils) significant participation as well as their own collective bargaining rights.
The state also supports these two religious communities by collecting church tax for them (and only for them!) ...:
I wish the German parliament had the "eggs" to pass a law similar to the "Loi relative à la séparation des Eglises et de l’Etat"!
The (state!) ban on celebrations and loud music on so-called ecclesiastical "silent holidays", which still exists in Germany today, would then be just as unthinkable here as it is in France ...!
On December 9, 1905, a very important law came into force in France, which is still in force today or even has constitutional status!
The "Loi relative à la séparation des Eglises et de l’Etat" - "Law on the separation of church and state" ...:
After the unrest in France as a result of the Dreyfus affair, the parliamentary left had won the elections in 1902 - and they rightly saw the ruling Catholic Church (the clergy had practically the entire educational system in their hands!) as a refuge for the restoration and the backwardness!
(The famous affair finally ended with the complete rehabilitation of the wrongly convicted Captain Dreyfus and thus with a victory for the Republican side. You will read hier about it...)
The left was supported by the liberals, for whom the monarchist, anti-democratic, anti-parliamentary, nationalist, militant Catholic and anti-Semitic orientation of the church is also a thorn in the side.
The state is initially trying individual measures:
In July 1902, around 3000 non-state-approved church schools are closed ...:
This leads to violent public protests ...
... and 74 bishops signed a “protestation”. As a result, the government conscientiously stops paying bishops from state funds.
In March 1903 all male religious orders were dissolved ..:
But the church is circumventing the ban!
Numerous friars and religious fathers find refuge in so-called "alternative monasteries" abroad and in French colonies.
In July 1903: all female religious orders are dissolved or banned
Again the Church tries to evade the ban and founds new communities under different names.
On July 7th, 1904, the state closes this legal loophole and forbids the establishment of religious orders!
You have to know that these religious orders not only represented religious communities, but also formed politically established "clusters" that reached up to the top of the state and the military!
On December 9, 1905, the final blow against the Papal Church fell with the "Loi relative à la séparation des Eglises et de l’Etat", largely driven by the politician Georges Clémenceau.
The following cartoon shows Clémenceau guillotining the power of the Church ...:
France has been secular since that day, which has also been anchored in Article 1 of the Constitution of the Fifth French Republic since 1958.
The law is 1905 directed primarily against the papal church, but for reasons of neutrality all other denominations are also included in this regulation.
In contrast to Germany, for example, churches and religious communities are associations under private law, not corporations under public law, the state does not allow religious instruction in public schools, it prohibits the wearing of religious symbols in schools, it does not collect church taxes for the churches (the churches finance themselves otherwise) and the churches have no seat in broadcasting councils.
As a result, the Vatican breaks off diplomatic relations with the French Republic!
It was not until 1921 that they were resumed ...
Against the background of secularism in the state school system, for example, the dispute over the wearing of headscarves in French schools should be seen, which in 2005 led to the determination that pupils are not allowed to wear religious clothing or clear religious symbols in class - i.e. neither headscarves nor headscarves visible crucifixes around the neck!
Attempts by Islamic circles to break the ban by giving their daughters wigs instead of headscarves before going to school are now also banned!
The remains of the Catholic influence that once shaped the state are still not completely dead!
There are still many private schools in France run by the Catholic Church and which teach more than 20% of French students.
Although the Cionstitution (Article 140) also says "There is no state church", the German state still gives massive preference to the Catholic and Evangelical Churches by granting them the status of "Socially Relevant Groups" and all of them possible committees (e.g. broadcasting councils) significant participation as well as their own collective bargaining rights.
The state also supports these two religious communities by collecting church tax for them (and only for them!) ...:
I wish the German parliament had the "eggs" to pass a law similar to the "Loi relative à la séparation des Eglises et de l’Etat"!
The (state!) ban on celebrations and loud music on so-called ecclesiastical "silent holidays", which still exists in Germany today, would then be just as unthinkable here as it is in France ...!
