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Dance of Death (again)

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by kevin, Nov 18, 2018.

  1. Ashworth New Member

    Thank you so much, Nap! PM sent.

    I don't know if I'll post any of my art as I'm still not very confident with my skills but I'm certainly very glad to be here and to see the others' work.
    This hobby is a fascinating one with such a large variety of figurines you would never find elsewhere if it wasn't for the hard work of this rather small world.

    Ashworth
  2. Nap A Fixture

    Country:
    England
    All are very welcone to post when they wish to ..lots of great advice and help here as well ..just ask

    I only paint busts !,

    Happy benchtime

    Nap
  3. Greg McCluskey PlanetFigure Supporter

    Country:
    United-States
    I'm sorry to hear that someone else recently is going through what I am going through with Ian. I still have not heard back from him after multiple attempted contacts via his website, new FB, and directly email. I'm not able to get a refund via PayPal because this has exceeded the 180 days from purchase. Well, that's a bummer. I have one last avenue I might try as I know a retired barrister from the UK and maybe he might be able to "scare up" something for me.
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  4. mick3272 A Fixture

    Have you tried ringing him Greg, or as stated try Trading standards.
    Mick
  5. Greg McCluskey PlanetFigure Supporter

    Country:
    United-States
    Mick,

    Can you provide his phone number and I'll try? Next, what is Trading Standards? I'm not familiar with that.

    Thank you.

    Greg
  6. mick3272 A Fixture

    Here is a copy of my earlier post.
    Hi Greg.
    I am sorry yet another person is having to go through this mess. As Yellowcat has said try to get your money back via paypal or your charge card.
    You could also try contacting West Yorkshire trading standards see link attached. http://www.wyjs.org.uk/trading-standards/contact-trading-standards/
    West Yorkshire Trading Standards,
    Nepshaw Lane South,
    Morley,
    LS27 7JQ

    Or you could try ringing him
    Mob 00447850490582
    Home 00441138086832

    Mick

    Trading Standards Definition of Trading Standards. In Britain, the local government department responsible for protecting the rights of
    consumers, by checking that trading is fair, goods are safe etc. [


    Mick
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  7. yellowcat A Fixture

    Country:
    Canada
    Ask for chargeback with your card provider within 120 days (about 4 months) of when you paid or noticed the problem. You won't be able to ask if you noticed the problem more than 540 days (about 18 months) after you paid. My son got his money back from chargeback for an item he purchased over a year ago.
    Good Luck!

    Felix
  8. yellowcat A Fixture

    Country:
    Canada
    The kit was on eBay last week. I have opt out the seller's name and eBay item number.

    dance1.jpg

    dance4.jpg

    dance3.jpg
  9. OldTaff PlanetFigure Supporter

    Country:
    England
    There's another one on Ebay, being sold by a woman in Manchester,...£80.00 ! Saw it below the Hearne Originals 17th. Lancer
  10. Nap A Fixture

    Country:
    England

    Saw that too ......At least if someone buys it they WILL get it!

    Nap
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  11. Tecumsea PlanetFigure Supporter

    Country:
    England
    One sold on Ebay for £125 last week and and a second from the same vendor for £105. The one at £80 has been relisted having failed to sell last week.

    Keith
  12. Helm A Fixture

    Country:
    England
    Hmmm one vendor gets two yet some people didn't get what they were due. "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark"
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  13. Babelfish A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Also the two that were sold by that particular vendor were both numbered 11/100. All seems a bit queer :confused: !

    - Steve
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  14. Nap A Fixture

    Country:
    England

    Maybe ones a recast !! ..or a double listing perhaps !

    Nap
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  15. Richard Baxter A Fixture

    Country:
    Scotland
    Or he used the same photo for both but forgot to switch the certificates.
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  16. Huw63 A Fixture

    Country:
    Switzerland
    Hi all,

    I've been following this thread with interest. I think it shameful that orders are still unmet - are theses new orders or some of the original backers?

    I received my Dance of Death early last summer after reading the post in April. Martin64 and I collaborated and were considering this course of action:
    1. Informing Planet Figure community (several members have already done this)
    2. Informing the West Yorkshire constabulary
    3. Informing Leeds City Trading Standards officer (at that time I believe Ian Burton was an employee of Leeds City Council)
    4. Informing PayPal

    We both were promised the model and there were delays such as being told "all was up in the air" due to the birth of his "beautiful granddaughter" (a birth which, according to Facebook, took place several weeks after the mail was sent). There is more that I shan't share here. The piece eventually came but with a bizarre request that asked Martin and I to confirm receipt despite it being a tracked parcel.

    I also researched in PF archives and found many complaints about I & E, the venture before Ellies, and I've heard many grumbles and rumours.

    I will never deal with Ellies or Ian Burton ever again and have stated this before. Ian Burton must still be wondering why I declined his request to be friends on Facebook, which I only joined last July (think of the timescales)!

    I despise re-casting for the harm it causes our hobby but if this is happening in this case, whilst of no consolation to people waiting for their orders, there is something ironic about it.

    Cheers

    Huw
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  17. OldTaff PlanetFigure Supporter

    Country:
    England
    Not only ironic, Huw, but maybe.....and I do NOT condone it in any way.....a little poetic justice. I'm reminded of a little nonsense verse from yonks ago,..." Bigger fleas have smaller fleas upon their backs to bite 'em. Smaller fleas have little fleas, and so on, ad infinitum " :LOL:

    Alan
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  18. Tommi A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    I guess if its gone past the maximum claim time for paypal or credit card then there is nothing else that can be done from a financial point of view and Ellies had done one with your hard earned cash and he probably knows this himself and obviously does not care.

    Tommi
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  19. Red Five Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    You can always go to the small claims court Fill out a form online Submit a fee It probably would not be a defended case and you get fees and your money back , if that doesn't work then get some butch debt collectors, he pays for them too
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  20. MCPWilk A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Big fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite them and little fleas have lesser fleas, and so on, ad infinitum......................
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