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Could This Be Peiper At The Battle Of The Bulge?

Discussion in 'General Figure Talk' started by Sturm Grenadier, Dec 28, 2012.

  1. Sturm Grenadier Well-Known Member

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    I think if you want to paint, model, or sculpt Peiper, in the Battle of the Bulge, these references might help. They are by no means the only ones, but I would hope they at least answer some questions on accuracy. Regards, SG:)
  2. Sturm Grenadier Well-Known Member

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    Hello Joe, I would paint them an off- white color. usually officers had silver cords on the cap, but these were often removed in the field, as were the stiffeners, to give it a crushed look. On the Life Miniatures boxart, the cap should only have one line of piping on the bottom, above the visor, the second line down is actually part of the cap and would be field grey. A mistake Sang- Eon Lee revealed on a post here at PF. His site is at http://www.lifeminiatures.kr/ where he has an excellent step-by-step on this bust. Hope this helps. Regards, SG:)
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  3. Joe55 A Fixture

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    That's kind of what I have been planning to do. Thanks for your input (y)!

    Joe
  4. Johan Well-Known Member

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    ... Peiper & co watching a footballgame of the boys of the LAH somewhere in Belgium not far from Leopoldsburg where they exercised - about May 1944, just before Normandy. Peiper is wearing his grey leather coat.
    The tall person in white coat is missus Peiper...
    Looks like they had lots of fun, but behind this is the grim reality that not long after or before the picture was taken 5 of the regiment were executed by their comrades officially for petty theft, but in fact more as an example it seems to restore an iron discipline ...
    Peiper_Belgium_early1944_Football.jpg
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  5. Stephen Ward Active Member

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    On a different note, it's pretty cold in Texas tonight.

    Random fact, I know, and not related to the thread. But I figured some levity here might help, pretty much anything to get us back to sculpting, painting, priming, whatever it is that we like to do. Just saying.
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  6. DEL A Fixture

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    ....:D and are the stars at night big and bright......(y)
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  7. Rich Sculpts A Fixture

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    Well it is just a hobby - build what ever you want (but please - just keep it to yourself) :(
  8. Sturm Grenadier Well-Known Member

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    Hello Taesung, Here is the photo that was descibed earlier in the thread, about the officer that appears to be wearing the long leather coat. I think this is a still from the captured war footage from Stoumont. The figure to the left, Peiper??? The center figure appears to be Diefenthal. StoumontBattle3.jpg StoumontBattle3_1_1_1.jpg
  9. Sturm Grenadier Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps this is better StoumontBattle3.jpg

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  10. Johan Well-Known Member

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    ... Sure ... thank you for your kind words !! (y)(y)(y) :D
  11. old grumbler Active Member

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    I believe, although I stand to be corrected that Peiper in later life translated 'Austerlitz' by Christopher Duffy and many other military titles. His murder too was a mystery.
  12. Johan Well-Known Member

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    Yes, quite a few indeed; fe. some titles by Alexander McKee amongst others. Many military titles in German by publisher Motorbuch Verlag from Stuttgart which have the mentioning "übersetzung aus dem Englischen von Rainer Buschmann" are in fact translated by Peiper.
    His murder was a mystery indeed; it seems he had in fact just started to write a book about what happened in Malmédy and what followed ...
  13. Johan Well-Known Member

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    Btw re. Peiper's own words that he wore an "Italian flying overall over the normal panzer uniform" in the Ardennes : a 1/35 resin figure by Japanese manufacturor PeiperYosci.jpg Yosci depicting him at Kharkov in a grey overall comes to mind.
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  14. Sturm Grenadier Well-Known Member

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    Hello Everyone, I would like to thank all of you who have posted and viewed my thread on Peiper in the Bulge. I hope that you have found the topic interesting, and the information useful, in modeling and painting the uniform of what Peiper, may have worn during the battle. As I have posted earlier in this thread, it was never my intention to hurt, or offend anyone in the subject matter, and if it has, you have my humblest apologise. I would also like to thank the members who contributed there knowledge, with there photos and constructive input.(y) I have a few photo tidbits, and a few obsevations: Peiper has never been photographed wearing the black M43 panzer cap. SS PANZER OFF M43 SIDE 2.jpg
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  15. Sturm Grenadier Well-Known Member

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    After the Battle of the Bulge, Peiper was never photographed wearing the long leather coat that it seemed was one of his favorites. Perhaps it was left behind in La Gleize during the Kampfgruppe's withdrawl? ostubaf-peiper-2.jpg
  16. Sturm Grenadier Well-Known Member

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    Peiper, was photographed after the BoB, in at least battlefield conditions, wearing the U-Boat leathers that most figures, and busts depict him in. Peiper_Austria_apr1945_400.jpg Jochen_Peiper_Martin_Gross_commander_12Panzerregiment_HJ_Austr.jpg Ostubaf_Peiper_and_Hastuf_Jahn_confer_before_operation_South_W.jpg
  17. Sturm Grenadier Well-Known Member

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    Thanks again for viewing and your contributions. Regards, SG(y)(y):)
  18. Ron Tamburrini A Fixture

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    Floydie
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  19. bonehead A Fixture

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    If I am not mistaken, an "Italian flying overall" would probably be brown in color, not gray. Just my two cents..... :lurking:;)o_O
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  20. Johan Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Mike. Well this text below is what I found on another forum; so far I've not seen a picture of an Italian flying overall... :

    According to Jen Westemeier's book Joachim Peiper, A Biography of Himmler's SS Commander, Peiper testified at Skorzeny's Trial " I wore a flying combination suit from the Italian Air Corps on top of my German armoured uniform"
    Westemeier sources this quote to: NA RG546 War Crimes Cases Trials, Case 6-100, Box 79.

    In confirmation of Peiper's quote above,Captian Bruce Crissinger ( a POW who spoke to Peiper like Major McCown) stated the following "Peiper was wearing a type of coverall and no helmet". Crissinger's 24 Hours, a Prisoner of the Waffen SS can be found on the web.
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