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Discussion in 'vBench (Works in Progress)' started by slaj, Jan 19, 2011.

  1. slaj Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Malta
    Hi guys and gals. This is a piece I've been working on lately.It's all scratch apart from the odd spare part.The figures are all in acrylics but the crow's nest is acrylics and oils. Thanks for looking

    Steve

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  2. billyturnip A Fixture

    Country:
    England
    Very nice Steve. I like the figures but the work on the rigging must have taken some patience.

    Roger.
  3. tonydawe A Fixture

    Country:
    Australia
    Simply awesome Stephen. Congratulations.
  4. Wendy Active Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Nice composition and poses. It looks great! (y)
  5. TWOMOONS Active Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Great job all around... As Wendy says, the composition is just beautiful. Painting top notch.
  6. bed172 Active Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Fantastic. I love it.
    Bob
  7. gordy Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Beautiful work Stephen! (y)
  8. BarrieHynd Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Scotland
  9. scipion94 Active Member

    Country:
    Spain
    Beautiful work .
    Congratulations.
  10. debrito A Fixture

    Country:
    Canada
    Superbe Steve, very nice work. What did you use for the ropes?

    Regards
  11. 1969 A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    the work on the figures and mast section are excellent Steve and the very fine painting really sets the whole scene of, its a fantastic initial concept to have thought of this scene and you did an excellent job creating it.

    Steve
  12. John Long Active Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Mighty interesting Stephen. Excellent work on the fighting top. Was the rigging a big challenge? The reason I ask is I have a similar project going with the Meteor Products USS Constitution fighting top.
  13. MCPWilk A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Excellent composition, sculpting and painting, however the rigging of the stays is not correct.
  14. dArtagnan A Fixture

    Country:
    Belgium
    Lovely piece of art, Stephen! Excellent work, I love it!
    Eddy
  15. slaj Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Malta
    Thanks people.
    John it was time-consuming. Actually all the roping should be by three but twisting it was a pain. It was done using a mini drill holding one end and a pair of pliers holding the other end.

    Micheal I don't exactly understand. My references show that at least they're close

    Strve
  16. gordy Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Please cite a source ;)
  17. Trep Member

    Country:
    United-States
    very cool and original work. Good job
  18. billyturnip A Fixture

    Country:
    England
    I think Mike means the rope is rove through the blocks incorrectly technically he is right but in my opinion it's irrelevent on this piece of work, the main focus is on the figures. :)

    Whoops forgot to mention my sources, BR67 Admiralty Manual of Seamanship and 23 years in the Royal Navy as a seaman. The ships I have served on weren't quite like this one but tackles are still rigged the same now as they were then. :D Stephen yours are close enough

    Roger
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  19. MCPWilk A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    "Originally Posted by MCPWilk [IMG]
    Excellent composition, sculpting and painting, however the rigging of the stays is not correct.
    Please cite a source ;)"

    Any of the Anatomy of the Ship series (available from Amazon and other book and model shops) will show how the stays alternate in pairs around the mast from port and starboard. The stays as shown would not support the mast, because there would be a torsional effect with the mast forward of the stays.

    There are useful pictures on the Caldercraft Nelson's Navy web site. These are the best photographs I can come up with:
    http://www.jotika-ltd.com/KitPics/LRG/Agamemnon_Tops_lrg.jpg
    http://www.jotika-ltd.com/KitPics/LRG/Jalouse_Top_lrg.jpg

    The most useful reference on the web is probably this:
    http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/B_S_M/Fourth_Instruction.html

    I do not want to knock this piece of work, which is excellent in conception and delivery, and I wish I could scratchbuild figures to this standard. I am also a great enthusiast for naval figures, which I feel are often neglected by modellers and producers. However when I see excellent models such as this, the detail of the ship, usually relating to the decks, is often wrong.

    Alan Ball shows how the rigging should be done:
    http://www.mb-miniatures.com/port/index.php?gallery-show-0-p14

    However in his wonderful model of Nelson boarding a ship, he rigs the cannons with deadeyes not blocks:
    http://www.mb-miniatures.com/port/index.php?forum-showposts-16

    We would comment if a 95th Rifleman was carrying a Brown Bess, not a Baker rifle, or a Falklands para a SMLE not an SLR. The information with regard to boat and ship building and rigging is readily available. As I stated above, I do not wish to be mean spirited about what is an excellent piece of modelling, but to encourage research in our wonderful hobby.

    Kind regards,

    Mike
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  20. gordy Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    @Mike, now that is how to cite a source! Thank you :)

    I agree with those sentiments, however when people point out inaccuracies the delivery is just as important as the content.

    @Everyone,

    Members here are from all corners of the globe with different languages and cultures. When someone says (just as an example not using you)

    " X is wrong."

    A simple statement without any context confers no expression or can be misconstrued as an attack.

    What is the poster conveying in the statement x is wrong? helpful, upset, envious? No one knows but the poster!

    Secondly, citing sources legitimizes the critics remark and helps and informs everyone on the topic. I work in IT, I often have to step out of my IT suit to explain or cite why something is what it is.

    We can't expect everyone's familiarity on a subject equal to our own familiarity on a subject.

    That's why we encourage an atmosphere of sharing and free exchange of knowledge here :)
    rej likes this.

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