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WIP Colonel Charles Dupin

Discussion in 'vBench (Works in Progress)' started by Nap, Feb 16, 2016.

  1. Nap Forum Moderator

    Country:
    England
    Hi Guys ,

    After my review of this recent release from Ellie's Miniatures , I decided to get it on the bench , looking at the references I also wanted to change a few things to get a closer representation.

    So after nearly 2 days of magisculpt eating I had...

    Reworked all the medals after dremelling off the original , this was my choice !!! I started with a blank canvas again and put all the lacework back on adding an additional one just under the left arm , then came the medals themselves ...a lot more details will be shown with the painting .

    000.jpg Dupin 001.jpg


    I also added some decoration at the back
    0000.jpg Dupin 003.jpg


    I detailed up the pistol , replacing the ramrod with a suitable sized pin and adding a carrying ring on the handle as well as drilling the barrel.

    Dupin 005.jpg

    I also added a bit of decoration around the sombrero and some lacing around the collar using fine lead strip.

    Dupin 009.jpg Dupin 007.jpg

    and the shoulder cording .

    00000.jpg Dupin 002.jpg



    These are a couple of my main references:
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    Top Row from the left

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    These are :Crimean medal , ( UK) (the reference shows 3 clasps) , the Mexican Expedition (French) , Italian Campaign(French) ,China Medal (French)

    Bottom Row from the left

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    These are : Cross of St Maurice and Lazarus (Sardinia) , Order of Medjidie (Turkey) , Valour Medal (Sardinia)


    The state of play at the moment...

    Arms both in position , head in place , on base ..all ready for priming and base coating

    I will try and updated whenever possible

    Thanks for looking in

    Nap
  2. akaryu PlanetFigure Supporter

    Country:
    Belgium
    Quite an undertaking! This will be a bust painter's dream. You will be watched very closely Nap;)(y)
  3. Zastrow.cuirassier PlanetFigure Supporter

    Country:
    France
    A superb work, sculpture and documentation.(y)
    The illustration representing the Colonel, it seems he wears the Legion of Honor around the neck, so the rank of "Commandeur".(n)
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  4. Nap Forum Moderator

    Country:
    England
    Hi Guys ,

    Thanks for the comments , it is a painter's dream , I am pleased with the result

    ZC ,

    Was thinking of adding this as well ...will have to take a Valium before !..thanks for the picture

    There are also pics of hm wearing medals in a different order including the legion of Honneur

    Keep watch folks

    Nap
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  5. Zastrow.cuirassier PlanetFigure Supporter

    Country:
    France
    [IMG]

    Photo contradicts illustration and makes more sense.
    I had not noticed the first time I saw the bust.
    The order of the medals is more logical in the photo.
    The French first medals are in first as provided military regulations.
    We can try to recognize in order :
    Legion d'Honneur (around the neck- "Commandeur " rank), the Mexican Expedition , Italian Campaign or China Medal, Crimean medal ,Order of Medjidie, Cross of St Maurice and Lazarus and Valour Medal (Sardinia)
    So Nap a trip to the pharmacy for the stock of Valium, Xanax ...:D;):whistle::nailbiting:
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  6. Gaudin A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    That hat doesnt sit right on his head, easy to fix. Judging by review pictures you will need to fix sleeve clover pipings too.

    Otherwise you must be really enjoying the medals ;)
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  7. ellie A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Well Nap you went to town on this one a little bit LOL. Their are so many variations on him from Photos to painting and each one has it's own merits but pinning down to one to produce a bust was a nightmare for both Moz and Us. so we settled on what was released.

    Have to say the medals were the one thing that did cause us a problem or two lol. but it worked out in the end. you are a brave man to change the whole line up nap but have to say it worked out well and a joy to look at well done mate.

    we are watching with interest as to how this one turns out.

    Cheers

    Ian

    www.elliesminiatures.com
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  8. Zastrow.cuirassier PlanetFigure Supporter

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    France
    Frenchies was also the nightmare of the English!
    Henri V;)
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  9. smudger1960 PlanetFigure Supporter

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    United-Kingdom
    Looks like an interesting project kev
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  10. ellie A Fixture

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  11. Nap Forum Moderator

    Country:
    England

    D ,

    The hat seems to look okay but please tell me what you suggest for it ( move forwRd more maybe ?) and the "sleeve cover piping?"


    ZC,
    Cheers for that info ..I am working with the illustration from the. Ann K Brown collection print .

    The commabeur order with Eagle or a face ?

    Nap
  12. ellie A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Hi Nap That's a nice print and looks like it's being a help to you. the sleeve Cover piping I don't quite know what is meant by that ?

    still keep it up mate

    Ian

    www.elliesminiatures.com
  13. Kevindunne Active Member

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    United-States
    Awesome piece...have already ordered mine...for the lunatics out there...I have a flat of this piece....in 30mm...anyone care to have a go at the medals???
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  14. Nap Forum Moderator

    Country:
    England
    Hi Ian ,

    Think D means the hat is a little too far back but not sure what he means either?

    Nap
  15. Wayneb A Fixture

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    Really like that Nap....(y)
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  16. akaryu PlanetFigure Supporter

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    Belgium
    As we never wore this kind of headdress in the Belgian army I'm far from being an expert in this matter, but what Gaudin mentions might be this:
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    The sombrero seems to be shifted too far to the rear:(

    Keep it going Nap!
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  17. Nap Forum Moderator

    Country:
    England
    Cheers akarya,

    Thanks for that ....had a disaster ...the sombrero has shattered .........email sent to Ian ...it's going to cost me at least a coffee !

    Good thing neck came away cleanly but head was pinned and glued ...so that needs replacing as well !

    Now I can get to the neck for th Commander Legion of Honneur !!!

    Thanks for the input always welcome

    Nap
  18. Zastrow.cuirassier PlanetFigure Supporter

    Country:
    France
    To try to be simple, the French military regulations concerning medals is pretty clear.
    The order is as follows (from right to left starting at the top):
    Legion of Honor, Ordre National du Mérite, medaille militaire, Croix de Guerre (several types), medals campaigns date obtained or seniority of the campaign.
    Next come the foreign medals, according to their seniority, but sometimes according to their value, sometimes also by country !!!!
    But the military medal can be worn before any others?
    Another feature, the order of liberation no one can receive it now, it can be worn before any medal or after the Legion of Honour.
    You follow me ?
    I made it simple !!!!
    But a soldier can receive French and foreign civil medals, there it is complicated, so we will avoid the subject.:bored:
    This is what it can give:
    For one of our most celebrated generals, General Bigeard:
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    Title of French decorations
    Grand-croix de la Légion d’honneur
    Croix de guerre 1939-1945 avec 7 citations dont 3 à l'ordre de l'armée (palmes)
    Croix de guerre des Théâtres d'opérations extérieures avec 17 citations dont 12 à l'ordre de l'armée
    Croix de la Valeur militaire avec 4 citations à l'ordre de l'armée
    Médaille de la Résistance (décret du 6/09/1945)
    Médaille des évadés
    Médaille coloniale agrafes « Extrême-Orient » et "A.O.F"
    Médaille commémorative de la guerre 1939-1945
    Médaille commémorative de la campagne d'Indochine
    Médaille commémorative des opérations de sécurité et de maintien de l'ordre en Afrique du Nord
    Médaille des blessés militaires avec cinq étoiles (pour cinq blessures de guerre)
    Titles of foreign decorations
    Distinguished Service Order (DSO)
    Grand-Officier du Mérite Sénégalais
    Grand-Officier du Mérite Togolais
    Grand-Officier du Mérite Comorien
    Grand-Officier Arabie saoudite
    Commandeur de l'ordre du Mérite national mauritanien
    Commandeur du Mérite centrafricain
    Commandeur fédération pays Thaï
    Commandeur du Dragon d'Annam
    Commandeur Legion of Merit (US)
    Officier de l'Ordre du Million d’Éléphants et du Parasol blanc (Laos)
    And I did not previously have cited some medals
    Other famous decorated military, General Salan, may be the most decorated soldier in France
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    Légion d'honneur
    - Chevalier le 5 avril 1922
    - Officier le 21 août 1940
    - Commandeur le 10 février 1945
    - Grand officier le 27 octobre 1948
    - Grand croix le 28 août 1952

    Médaille militaire
    Croix de guerre 14-18 1 citation
    Croix de guerre 1939-1945 8 citations
    Croix de guerre TOE 7 citations
    Croix de la Valeur militaire 1 citation
    Croix du combattant volontaire 1914-1918
    Croix du combattant
    Médaille coloniale agrafe EXTREME ORIENT
    Ordre de l'Étoile noire Grand Croix
    Ordre du Dragon d'Annam Grand Croix à titre militaire
    Ordre royal du Cambodge Grand Croix
    Ordre du Million d’Éléphants et du Parasol blanc Grand Croix
    Ordre du Mérite civil Taï Grand Croix
    Ordre du Dragon d'Annam Grand Croix à titre civil
    Ordre du Nichan Iftikhar Grand Croix
    Ordre royal du Cambodge Officier
    Ouissam alaouite Grand Croix
    Ordre de l'Étoile d'Anjouan Grand Croix
    Étoile des Comores Grand Croix
    Médaille de l'Aéronautique
    Ordre royal Muniseraphon du Cambodge
    Croix de la bravoure vietnamienne 1 citation
    Médaille de la Défense nationale du Cambodge
    Médaille commémorative de Syrie-Cilicie
    Ordre du mérite syrien
    Médaille interalliée 1914-1918
    Médaille commémorative de la guerre 1914-1918
    Médaille commémorative de la guerre 1939-1945 avec agrafes AFRIQUE, ITALIE, FRANCE, ALLEMAGNE
    Insigne des blessés militaires
    Ordre du Mérite militaire d'Annam
    Ordre du Règne du roi Savang Vatthana
    Ordre du Mérite Militaire Thaï (1950-1954)
    Médaille commémorative de la campagne d'Italie 1943-1944
    Médaille commémorative de la campagne d'Indochine
    Médaille commémorative des opérations de sécurité et de maintien de l'ordre en Afrique du Nord avec agrafe ALGÉRIE
    Foreign medals :
    Distinguished Service Cross
    Commander of the Order of the British Empire
    Campaign of Vietnam (Thailand)
    Military Merit Sena Jay Assed (Cambodia)
    By looking at the decorations you will see that the military medal is before others
    Hoping to have been clear!
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  19. akaryu PlanetFigure Supporter

    Country:
    Belgium
    What about a bust of Général Bigeard with beret of course and wearing the full version of all his medals/decorations? I hope to see this one day before my eyesight fails to paint them!
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  20. Nap Forum Moderator

    Country:
    England
    Guys ,

    Goodness me ....YES to that bust ...my eye's have lit up ...ribbons only as well ....so should be easier to paint.!.....not!



    Great reference there ZC ...in my book!

    Off to do a legion of Honneur neck award ...easy to get to now I have taken the damaged head etc off ....every cloud has a silver lining as they say !..lol

    Nap

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