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WIP Critique Christmas Truce bust....

Discussion in 'vBench (Works in Progress)' started by gothicgeek, Nov 17, 2014.

  1. gothicgeek A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Hi all!

    I'm doing this piece for Stu at Stormtroopers and need some advice/input :)

    Also I'll run it as a short sbs :)

    Here's the grey...

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    and here's where I'm at!

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    What I want some advice on, is that bottle... I have done some googling and I just can't decide what to do with it!

    Is it German or British, glass or pot, schnapps or beer?

    Any pictures, info etc. would be greatly appreciated, update soon :)
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  2. jenghiz Active Member

    Country:
    England
    Looking good already Mark.From the point of view of telling a story ,I think a German bottle or pot would add to the idea of the truce,IMHO,Ian.
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  3. ellie A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    I agree with Ian it would add to the story mate.

    cheers

    Ian
  4. clrsgt A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    Yes. A bottle of German beer or wine or maybe schnapps would be good.
  5. Trex Well-Known Member

    A German bottle of wine would emphasize the "Christmas Truce" label this bust calls for.

    Wine was common in the German trenches (also beer and Schnaps).

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    Here's a German wine label from 1914

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    Since it was Christmas, a champagne bottle could be appropriate too.

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    I hope I helped, can't wait to see this bust finished. :)
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  6. gforceman Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Belgium
    From docu's I have seen, most of the wine the Germans had was French wine they "liberated". Would go for Snapps or beer, but then again : who am I...?

    cheers,

    Gino
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  7. smudger1960 PlanetFigure Supporter

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Very nice start mark,love the wear on the ball
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  8. tonydawe A Fixture

    Country:
    Australia
    I think a bottle of Belgium beer would go down nicely. Might also provide a bit more focus to the specific location on the front.
  9. Wings5797 A Fixture

    Country:
    France

    Looking good Mark.
    How about a bottle of German wine with the label coming off to revel a decent French wine label. :rolleyes:
    Chin chin,
    Keith
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  10. Kisifer Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Greece
    That's defenately a beauty. I can't wait to see the finished piece.

    Xenofon
  11. The Maxican New Member

    Great start!

    Given the size and shape of the bottle, I would suggest a beer bottle rather than wine and definitely not champagne. Here are some reference pics of German beer bottles of that time:

    http://img.osthessen-news.de/images/14/03/xl/140331-4-img-0251.jpg
    http://www.stadtmuseum-hildesheim.de/uploads/pics/H_6332-6167-10377-10378-10369_web.jpg
    http://www.lda-lsa.de/uploads/pics/13b.jpg

    The only thing missing here is the characteristic "Bügelverschluss", a certain form of bottle top. This detail can be easily corrected by drilling two small holes left and right at the top of the bottle.

    Or take a look at this old english beer bottle:

    http://www.ricardo.ch/kaufen/sammel...asche-whitbread-london-um-1900/v/an742049634/

    The bottle top is different, more like a cork, which would fit this bottle. All bottles have in common that they did not have a label but instead an elevated imprint.

    Hope this helps...
    Max
  12. gothicgeek A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Thank you all!

    I will think it over1 I'd prefer glass and german for the fun of doing a glass bottle and label and to set the scene!

    Max ... as this is boxart I can't really go down the line of adding much so unfortunate I'll not be adding the wire mounted stopper ( which is like the grolsch bottles I'm so fond of lol ). Or I could paint on the raised detail...

    LOL

    More thinking time....

    Cheers again everyone! The input and comments are all of value :)
  13. polyphemus Well-Known Member

    Coming along well Mark.

    Oh the joys of those old leather footballs, especially when very wet & very muddy!

    Geoff

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