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Completed Black Watch Jock

Discussion in 'vBench (Works in Progress)' started by m@rp, Mar 8, 2014.

  1. m@rp Active Member

    Country:
    Belgium
    Hi guys,
    Here under you will find a new painted release of mine of a Jock of the Black Watch Regiment in WW1.
    Hope you will like it. Comments Welcome
    Better pics will be be add soon on my website
    Have Nice day
    Pascal

    P1000408.JPG P1000409.JPG P1000410.JPG
  2. BarrieHynd Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Scotland
    Very well done, like the wood grain effect on the rifle.

    Barrie.
  3. swralph A Fixture

  4. Wings5797 A Fixture

    Country:
    France
    Good work Pascal.
    This is a very nice piece, well done.
    Cheers,
    Keith
  5. megroot A Fixture

    Country:
    Netherlands
    I think the pictures don't do justice.

    Marc
  6. m@rp Active Member

    Country:
    Belgium
    Hi,
    thanks for the comments.
    Here under new pics (hope better)

    Pascal

    Attached Files:

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  7. Wings5797 A Fixture

    Country:
    France
    Looking even better in these pictures Pascal.
    Great work.
    Keith
  8. jakbwrhr Active Member

    Country:
    Australia
  9. Wings5797 A Fixture

    Country:
    France
    Great photo's James.
    Thanks for posting.
    Cheers,
    Keith
  10. m@rp Active Member

    Country:
    Belgium
    Ok
    thanks for your comments and the links. I will assume the change.
    Regards
    Pascal
  11. billyturnip A Fixture

    Country:
    England
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  12. m@rp Active Member

    Country:
    Belgium
    Hi Roger,
    You are an angel: many thanks.
    Isn't there a little likeness with my figure?

    In an other side I may see that the other soldiers wears a hackle, so my question is: do I change or not?

    Thanks

    Pascal
  13. billyturnip A Fixture

    Country:
    England
    Pascal, I seem to remember reading somewhere that either, or maybe both, Territorial Force or New Army battalions of the Black Watch were not initially allowed to wear the red hackle. This did change sometime after 1916 (I think).
    Unfortunately I can''t remember where I read it, I will have a look though and hopefully someone else will come to our aid.
    And yes, it could be the same person. (y)
    Roger
  14. billyturnip A Fixture

    Country:
    England
  15. jakbwrhr Active Member

    Country:
    Australia
    Not to be a pain... or overly obsessive... but he could be a Royal Scot... the 9th battalion (The "Dandy" ninth) wore kilts.

    Have dropped a note to balhousie castle out of curiosity to get the official answer!

    Either way...a lovely figure.
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  16. billyturnip A Fixture

    Country:
    England

    Not at all and I'm sure Pascal is of the same opinion. This is an interesting discussion. I also thought 9/Royal Scots too, looking forward to hearing what the museum has to say.

    Roger.
  17. jakbwrhr Active Member

    Country:
    Australia
    The initial response is possible...but unlikely. Officers of the 7th battalion would have worn balmoral bonnets with the hackle depending what "dress" they were wearing... with the glen garry also being worn...

    Other ranks would have worn glen garries with the cap badge being worn... the "initial" belief is that the reference to wearing the hackles from 1915 fit with the highland regiments moving to adopt the TOS for OR's... however, they will look into it in more detail... it's going to cost me a bottle of scotch next time i visit!!!
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  18. jakbwrhr Active Member

    Country:
    Australia
    9th Battalion HLI (Glasgow Highlanders) is another very distinct possibility...their cap badge is / was very similar to that of The Black Watch. They also wore the Black Watch tartan...

    So Pascal could leave the figure as is and change the title to reflect another old, but distinguished highland regiment... with no controversy!
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  19. jakbwrhr Active Member

    Country:
    Australia
    Strong belief from RHQ is that the picture shows a jock from the 9th Battalion HLI... however they are happy to be proved wrong (which will save me the bottle of Scotch!)
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  20. billyturnip A Fixture

    Country:
    England

    Maybe your bottle of Scotch is safe, the gentleman in the photo is actually identified as,
    Name:BRAND, THOMAS GEORGE LYALLInitials:T G LNationality:United KingdomRank:PrivateRegiment/Service:Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)Unit Text:1st/7th Bn.Age:21Date of Death:24/03/1918Service No:293037Additional information:Son of Alexander and Marion Lyall Brand, of Dundee.Casualty Type:Commonwealth War DeadGrave/Memorial Reference:III. C. 16.Cemetery:ONTARIO CEMETERY, SAINS-LES-MARQUION

    http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=121084

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