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Attacked by a cougar

Discussion in 'vBench (Works in Progress)' started by HansDig, Apr 27, 2019.

  1. HansDig Well-Known Member

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  2. grasshopper Guest

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    Nice..the animal,has small resemblance to an actual cougar..ask me how I know! And the indigenous with knife is about as fanciful as it comes..but you are conveying some good action
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  3. HansDig Well-Known Member

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    Cougar, northern mountain lion......it has four legs, fur and it bites. Good enough for me. And as for the indian with the knife......don't underestimate those guys......tough bunch :blackeye:.
    Well, I had it on the stash and did find some very well done examples on the internet so I thought....let's give it a try.
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  4. grasshopper Guest

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    The indigenous image has been romantically created thru colonial eyes..the James Fennimore Cooper and Remington stuff that is rather rude in misrepresentation. Many Eastern European sculptors are into miniatures of this ilk which is unfortunate. .however as a fanciful piece you are getting there.
  5. HansDig Well-Known Member

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    Well, most non-europeans think we, the Dutch, still wear wooden shoes, carry tulips and smoke weed all day so first I'm glad there are no 75mm Dutch figures on the market and 2nd this Indian is doing just fine LOL
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  6. grasshopper Guest

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    Ha ha..you don’t wear wooden shoes? Here the issues of cultural appropriation are huge...at some point the European depiction of indigenous becomes akin to whites in blackface ..off topic, but I am continually frustrated by the lack of anything close to accuracy with indigenous sculpts..it’s as tho I was doing Dutch in wooden shoes and smoking a joint..
  7. John Bowery A Fixture

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    Hans,
    This looks super and very dynamic and I am eager to see more.
    Cheers
    John
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  8. HansDig Well-Known Member

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    Thanks John. Yep, after working on the 1/72 scale dio for a month (one half is ready, second half with the chopper-on-deck) will start in may and I will send pictures then) this is a very welcome break!!
    And as for the tulips......here's Corsar Rex female Jeugdstorm (NSB, Dutch Collaboration ) member presenting.....TULIPS....

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  9. HansDig Well-Known Member

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    Jungletime.....I love making scenery ! Waterfall is still "drying" so not transparant yet...and of course I will add one happy little tree.


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  10. NeilW Active Member

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    It looks like many of the Osprey etc illustrations are based on post European contact sources where there's a significant American Indian/Native American/Native Canadians/First Nations/Indigenous Peoples/Amerindian/Aboriginals* 'appropriation' of European style clothing and items (trade blankets, shirts, uniform items, muskets, gorgets, trade axes etc) but relatively little on earlier, 'purer', styles. So I went to The Canadian Encyclopedia but couldn't see any obvious refs to clothing etc.

    So, could you please give links to some sources?

    BTW: not sure how this is European 'cultural appropriation' other than odd portraits such as Sir John Cladwell in a mish-mash of FP clothing?

    * yer pays yer money and makes yer choice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_name_controversy
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  11. HansDig Well-Known Member

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    My dad always believed Winnetou was a real indian....LOL
  12. NeilW Active Member

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    And didn't the Winnebago live in RVs?

    BTW: my brother in law's partner is a German book dealer specialising in Karl May (and others): he says that May's cowboy and indian books were Hitler's favourite reading.
  13. HansDig Well-Known Member

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    That's funny...
    The above statement about my dad was just a joke. He is a very well known and respected Karl May expert, both in Holland as well as in Germany. Went to the Karl May Spiele as special guest etc. I would not be surprised if your relative knows his name.
    And indeed, Karl May was Hitler's favourite as he was for many of kids and grown-ups ( uh, I mean Karl May of course...)
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  14. NeilW Active Member

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    Ha ha... yes. I did realise it was a joke :)

    Book dealing is a small world so, yes, they may well know each other, though May isn't his main specialism (I won't give his name without his permission).
  15. HansDig Well-Known Member

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    Neither will I but since I can't ask my dad if he knows your relative what remains is you asking him if he knows my dad..
  16. 1969 A Fixture

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    Nice work on the groundwork, like you this is my favourite part when creating a scene, what did you use for the water effects ?

    Cheers
    Steve
  17. HansDig Well-Known Member

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    Vallejo 26201 and 26230
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  18. grasshopper Guest

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    Check strongnations.com and ravenreads. The BS of Grey Owl and Winnebago quips shows the appropriation..and reduction of culture to movie and large Victorian imaginations..the mr dress up stuff of people dressing as indigenous..

    The collaborating girl figure I find more unsettling.
  19. MoboSchreuder A Fixture

    Great groundwork Hans It looks very good

    Mobo
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  20. HansDig Well-Known Member

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    But after having said all that and making your point about the looks of the nobel Indian.......how do you like my work so far ? I.o.w.....lets stick to the topic :)
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