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WIP 71st Fraser Highlander

Discussion in 'vBench (Works in Progress)' started by mmcalc, Aug 20, 2024.

  1. mmcalc Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Hello everyone. I thought I would pose this question to the forum. Dose anyone else feel the need to rework figures?

    I bought The FeR 71st Highlander figure. It is really well detailed and well proportioned. But...

    I wanted to model a rifleman in the light company. I am converting the Land pattern musket to a P1776 Infantry Rifle, so it will be shortened.

    This figure is a good starting point but I thought that the way that the figure was carrying his weapon was rather odd.
    https://ferminiatures.com/shop/revo...grenadier-71st-foot-frasers-highlanders-1780/
    EF2BA89A-7317-4700-B306-C320331BF256.jpeg


    I thought I would try a repose. I thought that a simple cradle carry of his rifle would be more appropriate. Here is the mock up, with the partially converted rifle, still awaiting shortening.

    A7F8FABD-7FE3-4225-A758-A58D3782B475.jpeg CBF0F1E1-BF18-4778-AB68-FB46BC91470A.jpeg

    I have found that I almost always repose figures. Does anyone else have this compulsion?

    Mike
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  2. Martin64 A Fixture

    Country:
    Germany
    Your conversion is a vast improvement and yes I repose figures quite often.
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  3. Nap Moderator

    Country:
    England
    Hi Mike

    It’s a great Figure sculpt but the weapon position could be thought a little different , so I agree with your option looks very natural

    As for reposing I change/add things on busts but that’s probably as far as I dare to go !

    Following this with much interest

    If you wish I will move this to V bench so you can keep the updates running

    Looking forward to seeing more

    Have fun at the bench

    Nap
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  4. valiant A Fixture

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    United-Kingdom
    I used to do it all the time. So much so, that I started to sculpt my own figures from scratch to cut out all the reworking necessary!!(y)
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  5. mmcalc Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Thanks all!

    Nap, Yes please move the thread. I would like to post progress.

    I am contemplating sculpting a new head. The kit's head is fine (I don't think the box art did it justice), but I saw this picture
    Black_Watch_Jock_NI.jpg
    https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/british-soldier-northern-ireland-1980-ish.55423/page-2

    And his expression struck me as appropriate for a soldier who just survived Cowpens and is rather bitter at the whole situation, particularly Tarleton, who wasted the whole battalion there. Plus, I like his hat jammed down over his eyes.

    Mike
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  6. Nap Moderator

    Country:
    England
    Hi Mike

    Thread moved to V Bench as requested

    Liking the thoughts you have on the face and headwear position

    Looking forward to seeing more

    Have fun @ the bench

    Nap
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  7. clubcat PlanetFigure Supporter

    Country:
    England
    I like what you are doing and going on this. I think the head needs to tilt down a tad to get him to look up (glare) as in the photo.
    Melanie
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  8. Mac1966 Well-Known Member

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    Italy
    Fantastic! I'll copy your simple but fantastic idea!
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  9. mmcalc Member

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    United-States
    Melanie,
    I thought the same thing. From what I have read, Scots soldiers, at least 20th century ones, liked to wear their bonnets pulled forward over their eyes. That may not truly reflect 18th affectations, but it is practical in that it hides to eyes from the sun and it would certainly add to a glowering expression.
    Mike
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  10. Richard Baxter A Fixture

    Country:
    Scotland
    The soldier in the photo wears a modern Glengarry, which did not become widely worn in the British Army until the 1850s, and was adopted for wear by pipers before the infantrymen. It may not even have been invented as an item of civilian headgear until the 1790s, sources differ on this.

    Your figure is sculpted with the Balmoral bonnet, also known as the Kilmarnock bonnet, which was adopted into the British Army in the 1740's. This was an evolution of the common civilian blue bonnet, of which there are records as far back as the 16th century. It featured a ribbon cockade and a small toorie, and sometimes a short hackle also.
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  11. mmcalc Member

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    United-States
    I was really just going to copy the expression, but planned to keep the proper period headgear, just worn differently. This is a quick sketch of what I had in mind.
    Mike
    Jock in Bonnet Sketch 20240822_132357.jpg Mike
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  12. Briggsy PlanetFigure Supporter

    Great conversion Mike, totally agree the original is odd, I have done several French Army figures carrying that way but all have huge backpacks.

    As for reworking figures, I have done my fair share over the years and now make my own, not to the extent of Valient, mine are more reworked Historex, to the extent there isn't much Historex left.

    I tend to do stock figures as they come these days as I like to keep the painting going while resculpting my own.

    Cheers Simon
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  13. David Spencer A Fixture

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    United-Kingdom
    That re-posing has really improved the figure. It looks like an interesting one to work on.
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  14. F Troop Active Member

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    United-States
    Yes. I've been guilty of that on more than one occasion and as far as I know there is no cure for it.
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  15. Ferris A Fixture

    Very nice conversion. Better than the original.

    Cheers
    Adrian
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  16. Nap Moderator

    Country:
    England
    Hi Mike

    Liking the sketch , the change of the headwear position will look good and add more interest along with the weapon location

    Looking forward to seeing more on this

    Have fun @ Bench

    Nap
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  17. MalcC A Fixture

    Country:
    England
    Great conversion, this pose looks far more natural.
    Following with interest.

    Malc
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  18. Babelfish A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    I agree with the other comments that your pose is a vast improvement.

    I'm also not a fan if that particular sculptor's faces. He did a lot of work for FeR (not sure if he still does) and all his figures have more of less the same face, which on many I think looks a tad doll-like to the point that it's put me off a number of otherwise very nice pieces from that company's range.

    - Steve
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  19. mmcalc Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Hello everyone,

    I have been sidetracked making a 3d model of the Pattern 1776 Rifle. I decided that I didn't like the Brown Bess conversion, so down the rabbit hole I went. I figured I may as well, as I intend on doing a series of figures representing British rifle armed light infantrymen of the American Revolution. I can also jump to 90mm, 120mm, or even 1/32 if I want to with a printed weapon. I will wind up making a Baker rifle eventually as I have ideas for a series of Napoleonic British, Hanover, and Brunswick riflemen.
    P1776 Rifle 3d Model.jpg
    If that wasn't bad enough, I also modeled a dirk. I figured that this character would be carrying a Scottish weapon he would be familiar with as a ghillie rather than a hatchet.
    Dirk 3d.jpg

    This is where a 3d printer comes in handy. The organic stuff is really difficult for me to 3d model. Anyhow, I get more satisfaction doing that by hand. The mechanical stuff with crazy detail is better digitally modeled and printed in my opinion. At least, I can get it to look better than trying to do it by hand.I might try a shako for the 1800 figures, or at least the basic shape and brim too.

    Ciao,

    Mike
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  20. Briggsy PlanetFigure Supporter

    Excellent use of technology, I really do need to sort my 3D printer out, only had it 2 years so far.

    Cheers Simon
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