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Returning to painting

Discussion in 'Painting Techniques' started by al51williams, Aug 31, 2016.

  1. al51williams Active Member

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    I am returning to painting figures after many years break. But I cannot find a medium I am entirely happy with.

    OILS
    I base coat with either Humbrol or acrylic; leave the oils on a piece of card for several days to dry out; but I still get a slight sheen. Particularly if you touch up on top of the dried oils. I did overspray with Testors Dullcoat once this seems to help but I would rather avoid varnish.

    ACRYLIC
    I mostly use Andrea. I tend to get a faint sheen when using very thin washes to blend colours. Are Vallejo acrylics better? I've seen a post about applying matt varnish to the mix anyone tried this? Also about painting on top of acrylic that has not dried, can this lead to a shine?

    Grateful for any suggestions.

    Alex
  2. Alex A Fixture

    Country:
    Canada
    never had any problems whatsoever with vallejo paints, using them straight from the bottle or diluted 1:5 even 1:7
    what kind of dilution are you talking about ?
    I think that some people are diluting way too much their acrylics, weakening the paint film by doing so
  3. Tubby-Nuts2 A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Perhaps this thread may help you with oils.;)

    http://www.planetfigure.com/threads/matting-down-oils.71111/

    Although cutting the oil with high quality white-spirit, or Turps, does have a matting effect with oil paint..

    I am sure, Del, Ron Clark, (Kakemusha), Brian, and Smudger, Ron T.. Will all be of help to you.

    Regards,

    Mark.
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  4. Ferris A Fixture

    And for acrylics a trick is to mix in a touch of Tamiya X22 matte medium.
    Using a hair drier in between layers of acrylics, to properly dry them before proceeding, also helps to keep things matte.
    Some colours are more prone to shine than others.

    Adrian
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  5. hypertex Active Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Try using Vallejo's matte medium or glaze medium for your acrylic glazes. You won't even need to thin the paint with water (but you can if you want). I add one part paint to about 8 or 10 parts glaze medium (this is a guess as I don't measure). If I still get shine with a particular color I'll use matte medium. Or I'll just apply a glaze of matte varnish at the end.
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  6. frank h Well-Known Member

    Country:
    England
    Hi
    I put this in another post .... but here it is again ...I put a bit of Vallejo Matt varnish into my mixes
    The Number is 520

    Also break the water tension with a drop or two of washing up liquid

    The consistency of the paint I aim for is the paint to flow from the brush
    and cover in two coats ...... three for some colours if needed
    The method I use to apply the paint is by following the sculpture of the figure
    I do recommend the use of a hair dryer between layers of colour passes

    Never had a problem with glossy acrylics

    As for oils .... I am returning to them for some applications
    so having to re-learn how to get the best out of them

    Hope some of this may help

    Frank
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  7. dfmoss Member

    Country:
    United-States
    I just recently returned to oils and enamels. I really like the easier blending.

    I still use acrylics for some things, but I started with oils and enamels years ago and they are what I am most comfortable using.

    Don
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  8. al51williams Active Member

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Many thanks for all the useful tips.

    Alex
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  9. Ron Tamburrini A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Certainly wouldn't leave oils to dry out on a card let alone two days :eek:
    With oils its down to the quality of the pigment , for the most part the students grade will be more oil than the latter , so the artists quality will give better results
    Agian different colours dry at different rates with the lighter ones taking the longest also you got to check for opaque , semi opaque and transparent , all will dry with different degrees of sheen , earth colours being the most matt.

    Having said this there are different schools of thought re oils , with some advocating the card trick and others relying on a light box for fast drying or a bit of both . Personally I like the slight sheen you get with age on the oils .
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  10. Alex A Fixture

    Country:
    Canada
    If you remove too much oil, you will lose one of the principal quality of oil paints and that's their ability to blend so easily.
    I think that you can remove the excess oil. But after that, as long, as you apply only a tiny bit of paint, you are good to go.
    Then let it dry with the help of a lamp or not.

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