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The Viking's cloack

Discussion in 'Just starting...' started by Ivan Obraztsov, May 4, 2012.

  1. Ivan Obraztsov New Member

    Hello ,everyone
    Please help , I started to paint Viking Cheiftan from Soldiers ( sculpted by Adriano Laruccia)
    Painted his shield to red , and have a little problem with his cloack , it cannot be red , green or black, because those colors I've already used ...
    And I want some trips about historical reliability of the cloack's color and the rest of the figure

    Best Regards I. Obraztsov
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  2. Andrew Clay Member

    what about a blue or a yellow. i know its far fetched, but its all i can really think of
  3. housecarl Moderator

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Take your pick, these are all from natural dyes. OK they're not fixed and would fade quickly, but gives you an idea of the vibrant colours that were available.
    Carl.

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  4. Einion Well-Known Member

    Why not? People sometimes deliberately chose colours that went together as part of a personal livery of sorts, but it could be simply because they liked a particular colour just as you might today :)

    If you wish to use 'the same' colour on two parts of a figure and want to avoid that problem where things look too alike you just need to start from a different paint or mix the colour differently. So either vary the hue slightly, e.g. one red more orangey than the other, or make one brighter and the other more dull. As well as either of these possibilities a good way to show the difference between a painted surface and a dyed fabric is to make one slightly glossy and the other relatively matt.

    There's now a fair bit online about historical dyes and it's worth doing a bit of your own research to get an idea of what was possible, affordable or expensive, common or rare. With subjects from specific regions it can be important to know what was easily available at a given period in history, in the far north of Europe for example they had access to dyestuffs they didn't use around the Mediterranean.

    In terms of a dyed colour black was surprisingly expensive because it would have involved dyeing a piece more than once (twice or three times). But of course for wool there is the possibility of black wool* having been used so no dying necessary.

    And there were not any good greens available for a lot of history, so it was primarily achieved by dying with both blue and yellow, so again relatively expensive compared to say a russet, dull yellow, paler blues and anything in its natural colour.

    *Very dark brown/near-black in colour.

    Einion
  5. Einion Well-Known Member

    To mention as well, the wealth of the individual can be signified to a certain extent by how colourful they are - excluding fabrics taken as loot, if you were not rich you might have almost no dyed colour in your clothing, most of it being in the natural colour of the fibre it was woven from with just a bit of colour in embroidery or woven bands.

    Einion
  6. Ivan Obraztsov New Member

    Einion , I don 't painted it to bright green , I painted his shirt to " brownly" green ,, He is quite noble =>rich
  7. Pepperpot Active Member

    Country:
    Germany
    Why not use the red from the shield and a tad bit of the shirt green to dull it down to a more brownish red? That way you reuse the colors and get some variation while keeping harmony.
    That is just an idea coming from a newbie :)
  8. Ivan Obraztsov New Member

    Thank you very much , guys .My Viking will be here soon

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