I'm start to sculpt another horse, but i stop at this point because i wish to know if body shape is ok....i think there are point where i can do adjustments, but honestly i'm not very sure about them. (i think the back of the horse isn't ok....and foto i made from top of horse, tell me somenthing goes wrong....i think that part should not to be so thick)
Maybe you can give me some clues, it will help me alot.
Thank you

I like it so far

I'll buzz Kathryn for her equestrian expertise!

Thanks for the buzz Gordy!

Silviu, this new one is looking fantastic! You've got tons of improvement! In fact, you are very, very close. There are just a couple of key points where you're off just a smidge, and that's throwing you off on other points.

I have to go get my son - he twisted his knee in Taekwondo, so I'm going to run get him, see if I can get him to the doc, then I'll be back.

Thanks Kathryn, I hope all is well with your son!

Many thanks gordy for your help, and Karrie i hope your son will recover fast, i hope his injurie is not to bad. Anyway, i'm happy because you said my new model is improved.... i hope with your corections, will look better.

Thanks Gordy and Silviu. Well it was a bunch of hurry up and wait. I took him to a minor care center because I wanted him to have x-rays just to be on the safe side. The good news, nothing wrong with the bone, it's a bad sprain. But I do have to make an appointment with the ortho on Monday. So he's on crutches, with a big ole brace and we're icing it. The poor kid.

Silviu, if you're able, see if you can find the book Anatomy of the Horse by George Stubbs. It's been in print forever and I just picked up a used hardback in very nice condition on Amazon.com for $4.00 It's got some fantastic pictures of the skeletal structure that I think will really help you out.

I took the liberty to snag one of your photos and do some line drawing on it.



The tiny light blue dots are the important key points that you created with your sculpture. The one on the head is the poll. This needs to be the highest point on the horse and where the neck actually flexes. As you see on your sculpture, the highest point on the neck is back farther. This is actually something artists do over and over again, but horses don't move like this naturally. You may see them doing it occasionally when they're at liberty and playing in the pasture. But they will do it only for a few seconds as it is very unnatural and can actually be painful. The only other time you'll see it is if a horse is trained to do it in the show ring. Now, it's something that is very frowned on because it hurts the horse and can cause problems over time, like arthritis and a host of issues. If you look at the horse in my signature, he has his head raised and his neck arched but the poll is still the highest point.

The second light blue point is the withers, this is where the spine and shoulders meet, it is a structural foundation point on a horse. The red lines are the ones I drew following the lines you created on your sculpture. Many times, if something isn't working - like you know something is off but you can't define it - try printing out a photo and drawing lines like I did. It will help you see where you're off and define what's bothering you.

The dark blue lines are the ones I drew trying to show some ideas for correction.

You can see the light blue on the withers and the point of the shoulder - you got so close to nailing them! You almost had those perfect! Well done!

The hip is what's throwing you off the most - but again very close! In this sort of movement, the horse is using his hindquarters for power (this is exactly what you want them to do - so again - well done!). But you want the back to slope downward just a touch, not much, just a tiny amount. Also, don't forget the tail! It's actually part of the spine too so you'll want to leave a little armature hanging out for the tailbone.

The croup, the top of the rump, is just a little short and has too much slope. The hip points, again you were very, very close! But the hip itself is too wide and the hip points don't quite line up.

So that's what I've got so far. Keep up the great work! You really have a lot of improvement, very well done!

Cheers,
Karrie

Thank you very much for the expert pointers Kathryn, very informative

All the best and speedy recovery for your son!

Thank you Karrie! Wow, alots of information you give me, i hope i will use them properly.
Many many thanks!

I made some modifications, but still i don't like the result ...maybe i start from 0 this project.
Someone tell me , the angle made by left foot (back) wrist (near the hooves) is not good, leg look broke. Can you tell me if the angle is good ?
Anyway, i wait for your opinion, thanks.

I have to admire how you have stuck with this project. The sculpture keeps getting better and better. I can't comment on the foot since I don't know the correct response, I just wanted to say..well done sir, well done.

Mike, thank you for your encouragement. If you say you see an improvement on my sculpture, then i'm happy. This means my efforts have some results, and for me, this means i go in the right direction.
Thanks again!