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WIP Critique Avalonian.

Discussion in 'vBench (Works in Progress)' started by housecarl, Mar 30, 2010.

  1. housecarl Moderator

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    United-Kingdom
    I decided to strip this today, and regretted it. I just can't seem to get it right.:(
    Any top tips greatly appreciated.
    Carl.

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  2. jimias A Fixture

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    Greece
    Carl i think i know excactly how you feel. Over the years i ve stripped and repainted many figures and i regretted it the moment the metal showed up. From what i can see it looks very nice. The fleshes are well blended just a bit whitish for my taste at least. I whould go with some washes to tone it done a bit.
  3. 1969 A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    And i thought i was the only one who was having problems with acrylics :) my suggestion would be the same as Jimias, or another option is GET THE OILS OUT !! :p

    Look forward to seeing where you go with this one mate, by the way the Verlinden bust has just had the face redone in oils, will post soon (y)


    All the best mate,

    Steve(y)
  4. Major_Goose Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Greece
    I have painted many figures and bnever stripped one ! So i never regret ! he he he
    What i d suggest would be to use some more warm oil tones and some more contrast to give some life and spice up the picture. Use outlinning of the areas and focus on getting a strong feeling of the finished item .

    Will be looking for the finished one !!

    best Regards

    Costas
  5. housecarl Moderator

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    United-Kingdom
    I'm going to give oils a try:eek: I can feel another stripping session coming on.
    Thank for the input.
    Carl.
  6. ScottN New Member

    Country:
    United-States
    It looks to me that your using Acrylics. The paint looks like paste or chalk in texture. My suggestion is to thin your paint more. I use a mix of water and Future Floor polish. This tiny bit of acrylic floor polish helps to level out the acrylic. I hope this helps.

    I agree that the tones look really good though! Don't give up, keep trying!
  7. housecarl Moderator

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    Had a little play with the oils. Shame he isn't wearing a visor.:confused:
    Carl.

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  8. Gellso A Fixture

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    Not too bad

    Tbh Carl, I think your selling yourself a bit short with these.
    You have the basis for a very good technique.
    The eyes look extremely realistic and are done really well.
    What probably isn't helping it look "right" is the lack of eyebrows. Bung a couple of hairy caterpillars on him and see the face come together a bit more, I guarantee.

    The Acrylic version has highlights in the right places but it looks like you've just used a one tone highlight instead of graduating them light and lighter. The result is a 2 dimensional face. Try adding a wee bit of red in the cheeks and a wee bit blue or paynes grey for the unshaven look to break up the 2d effect also.
    There are parts on a face which are more lighter than others .e.g one of his chins seems to have the same highlight tone as the bridge of his nose. The Chin highlight would be darker than this.
    The oil version is very good also. I think it just needs a little more shadow.
    Thanks very much for letting us see him and do percevere as you will get there very soon.

    Why not try and preshade with acrylics and go over in oils.
    The first face pic below I gave a brown sand base, cadmium red shadows, light flesh diluted highlights, all acrylic. The second pic has the oils, which have shadows and highlights painted on along with some rose to make him look cold. I find if you dab the oils with a flat brush then clean the brush after every stroke you get a more gradual change in tone. The oils are translucent and you can see the pre shade come through giving it more depth.
    Note how it doesn't look quite right without eyebrows.
    The Totenkopf Panzer gunner was done the same way

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  9. housecarl Moderator

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    United-Kingdom
    Thanks again for the input chaps, and thanks Grant for going to trouble to post those top photos.
    Carl.
  10. Michael Tse Active Member

    Country:
    HongKong
    Hi Carl,

    I think the rework is great! In general when the contrast of fleshtone seems too harsh I just airbrush around the whole face with the base colour and that always does the job, albeit a few more strokes of lighter colour need to be applied to restore the highlight.

    But I guess you wouldn't be needing this tip anyway...

    I like what you've done here. Will follow closely.
  11. Ferris A Fixture

    Hi Carl,

    Interesting to see the different versions.
    It wasn't necessary to strip the first if you ask me, but I do like the oils version as well. I must say the depth of oils is very suitable for faces.
    I think the light skin tone is well chosen for this 'old and ugly' face.

    By the way, the mail looks really good as well. How did you handle this?
    I suggest to add some burnt sienna washes in selected places though, too make it look used a bit.

    Cheers,
    Adrian
  12. ubbi Active Member

    Country:
    Italy
    Hi Carl, you are doing better for my liking, perhaps just a little bit of contrast

    cheers stefano
  13. housecarl Moderator

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Adrian the maii was initially painted black then, Games workshop dare I say it dry brushed over, and finally silver dry brushed over again. You're right it does need a bit of a wash to dull it down in places.(y)

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