Hi hope someone can help. Can anyone let me know a good Cheyenne Indian Skin Tone mix in oils?

Cheers Wayne

Well,
I looked after a article of Bob Knee and find it in HMM nmr 52.
Rob explain it as follow:
The Northern Plain tribes tended to be a dark tan (not red) with their constant exposure to the sun.
Bob uses the following colors;
Yellow Ochre or Gold Ochre + Burnt Sienna gives the intermediate Hue.
Step 2.
Intermediate Hue + Caucasian Flesh (Roht.Gamblin) gives the Normal Caucasian Flesh.
It is a very basic and you could add a very slight bit of Cadmium Red Light to this to give the mix a hint off pink. Others five a bit ov Veridian Green to "grey down"the flesh as most Caucasian skin has some grey in it. Go very light on this.

Hope this is a little help.

Marc

Back when I did 90% American Indians and painted solely in oils, a simple spot -on mixture for native flesh was the surprising combo of geranium lake and lime green (or an equivalnt of lime green).
Perfect and simple...I found no better combo than this as a medium color and so easy to go dark or lighter for shading with this as a base.
I found the ochres far to yellowy...unless doing a South American tribe, like a Jivaro,where they were known (by the older the anthropological term) as "apricot skinned".
Hope this helps.

Could you give an idea of the ratios?

I don't know if you mean my formula...but if you do....try 50/50...mix it up, see if you like it. If you want it darker...go with more lake...if you want it lighter, go with more green...so on and so forth.
Browns can be added to your basic mix for shading...like the cheek hollows, under the eyes, etc.
Then you can use white or Naples yellow to the basic mix for highlights, nose bridge, chin etc.,
Or much lighter forms of the original mixture (more green).
If you didn't mean me...never mind.

Phil, I remember seeing your Indians years ago at the New Jersey show, they were fabulous.

Cheers
Roc

White, Yellow Ochre, Red Oxide, Mars Black. With a bit of glazing for cheeks, lips etc.

As with painting all skin the ability to vary the hue of the basic mix slightly to either side of orange/scarlet is useful. This is why the majority of portrait painters mix from a yellow and a red (or yellow and red earth).

Einion

Thanks Rocco...those were surely the days , when an upcoming show and competition was a focus for so much of my life...then on to the next one.
Actually, Indians is why I got into sculpting/scratchbuilding in the first place...then, there hardly any American Figures available as castings...so I went from conversions into sculpting.
Thanks for the kind words.

FWIW here's my palette for native American skin tones.

Photo is not so good but you get the general picture.

All colours are Winsor & Newton oils. I'd try to avoid WHITE as it 'greys' the tones and use NAPLES YELLOW instead. Adding VIOLET to the darkest shadows add warmth to the complexion.

Hope this helps,

Quang