Hi everyone @ pF.

Some friends of mine in France started their own small range of busts.
N-S Productions.

They have already one bust available for sale, an Australian Aboriginal 1/9 @ 27.50 eur.



In the first month 2 more Indian busts will follow:
both 1/9 @ 38.00 eur.




The Australian Aboriginal can be ordered from my website www.dominomodel.com, more specific here: http://www.dominomodel.com/main.php?action=productenfigurines&naam=n-s_production&categorie=28&categorienaam=Figures / Garage kits&pagina=1

I know they are still looking for other retailers so if anyone should be interested, you can always PM me.

Cheers

Nicolas!

I'd like to give some critical input Nicolas, if you're interested - there are a lot of issues on the Native American subject with the raven headpiece.

Einion

What are the issues?

Can you explain?

If Nicolas is interested in that kind of feedback, yes. Most of it should be obvious with careful comparison to the source pic.

Einion

Very nice sculptwork.
That aboriginal is awesome and i like the second indian.
I'm not so charmed with the raven on the head with the first one....looks weard to me.

Marc

Hi Einion,

please explain to me, any suggestions / comments / critics are very welcome.

Since these pieces are their first "commercial" work, I'm happy to talk them about improvements they can so.

Please excuse me my Belgian English, it was a long time ago I wrote the English languag

Greets from snowy Belgium!

Nicolas

Hi Nicolas,

My eye was caught by the superbly sculpted bust of the Australian Aborigine. You've done a fantastic job representing one of our indigenous people; the world's oldest surviving human culture.

Judging from the scarification on the chest, I'm guessing he represents a man from one of the many desert tribes of central Australia.

I'm not an expert on Aboriginal culture, but the bag around his neck looks unusual. Do you have a photo you used for reference??

My understanding is that men carried small totemic items that had personal and religious sigificance in these bags (often made from kangaroo scrotums). These bags usually had a draw string around the top to prevent these important items from falling out. If you have another explaination for what this bag is, and what was kept in it, I would very much like to understand the purpose behind it.

Once again, my congratulations.

As you can see from the above, the feathers in the original illustration are noticeably asymmetrical (most feathers are). The claws on the sculpted necklace seem a little short and blunt and they don't appear to curve enough.

On the face, obviously it does not have to be copied directly but I think the eyebrows are too heavy and the lips could do with some more work.

On the raven the head and beak shapes are a little off. Some photos of ravens for more reference here. Also on the wings there are far too many and too small feathers, see here; it's important when depicting wings realistically to do the correct number of feathers and get their shape, size and placement accurate.

I also think the fur texture could be a little less stylised - if it's intended to be a buffalo hide it should look a little more wool-like rather than like long fur, see here and here.

Hope that helps.

Einion

Hi everyne,

I got a message from N-S (Nelly & Samy)

First of all they said that the picture I posted about the Crow Indian was just a reference for the Crow Indian bust, they didn't intend to create a bust that looked like this picture, but they only used it as an example to base their bust on.

About the coat, this is the material they used as a basis:
http://figh.forums-actifs.com/creat...-f22/les-mako-moulages-de-nelly-t2712-180.htm

About the aboriginal, same story:
below are the images used to base their bust on:



hope this helps

When I get more information, I'll sure post it here

Thank you guys for the comments,
I'll inform N-S about the suggestions and critics.

Kind regards

Nicolas

Hi Nicolas,

The photo of the Aboriginal man is a screen shot from the Hollywood movie "Australia" filmed in the Kimberley region of Western Australia. I would be very wary of relying on this particular movie for reference. It's so full of historical inaccuracies it really qualifies as a fantasy.

I don't have a problem when Hollywood movies take liberties with ancient cultures and civilizations that are long extinct (Troy, 300, Alexander for example), but Aboriginal culture in Australia is very much alive and Aboriginal people are very sensitive about people (particularly white fellas) misrepresenting their culture.

I'm not suggesting N-S productions have misrepresented Aboriginal culture, I'm just letting you know that it can be a senstive issue here in Australia. If I bought this bust, painted it and put it on display in a public competition, I'd want to be very sure it was accurate and not based solely on Hollywood research.

Having said that, I'm pleased to see this bust on the market and I thank you for answering my question.

This aboriginal is from the movie Australian with Nicole Kidman.
It's a great movie, but i don't know of the person in question is to much Hollywood.

Marc

I realise it doesn't have to be an exact copy and said so Nicolas - the points I raised were mostly concerning realism or accuracy, any of them could have been raised without reference to the illustration. This is why I posted links with photographs to illustrate each point, to try to make it clear it's not about the sculpt compared to the illustration.

The wings are perhaps the best example of what I mean, it should be easy to see the differences in shape and structure

Einion