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British Infantryman 88th Foot, Spain 1810/12 Stormtroopers New Release

Discussion in 'Figure News' started by stu, Dec 1, 2020.

  1. Nap Moderator

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    Hi everyone

    Sold the kidney ...Ye Hah!! ....went to buy ...Sold out this run ...bugger !!!!....msg sent to Stu ...hope he casts more !!!

    Great to see this has gone so well

    Wonder what the next will be ?

    Happy bench-time

    Nap
  2. Steve Brodie PlanetFigure Supporter

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    Quick email to Stuart and confirmation more on the way - Yipppeeee
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  3. Nap Moderator

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    Phew!

    Nap
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  4. MCPWilk A Fixture

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    Very nice, an accompanying body and limbs would also be nice.

    Mike
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  5. tock24 Active Member

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    So the 88th of foot are out! Who do we paint him as?? What will you do??!!
    Ian
  6. Cannonball A Fixture

    Managed to grab one of these and it landed this morning-excellent service from Stu. In answer to Ian’s question above I was having a quick look through some reference stuff and was considering the 27th (Enniskillen) or a Kings German Legion Line regiment but a bit of trimming with a sharp blade may bring the 88th back into the equation.....


    Neal
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  7. NeilW A Fixture

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    NOTE: the credit for most of the 'heavy lifting' research for this must go to Dibble/Paul Bantick whose contributions to The Minatures Page (the tables are at the very bottom) and Pinterest directed me to the original sources and provided the Pearse list as below)

    Looks like there are two issues here (if it is to be the 88th as per the box):
    1. was the lacing square or pointed?: the consensus above seems to be that it was pointed but other sources, as below, suggest square
    2. was the lace in pairs or single rows: all sources seem to suggest pairs
    The bust is unclear but looks like single to me.

    So... what regiments had single, squared lace?

    Answering this is complicated as the contemporary/primary sources sometimes differ... even within themselves.

    I can't find any original Army Regs though the 1811 General Regulations and Orders make interesting reading (eg what games were forbidden, the wording of receipts for oats and hay, the official allocation of sappers' tools and the wood allowance for officers). However, here are three contemporary sources which are cited in various reference works as:


    de Bosset 1803 : this shows the original chart plus a tabulation (Fosten MAA 114). The chart isn't good enough to determine the shapes but the 88th's double laces is clear:
    RD4-deB.png RD1a.JPG RD1b.JPG


    Hamilton Smith 1812: again the original then a tabulation (Fosten MAA 119)... and again the shapes for the 88th aren't too clear but I'd go for pointed (seems that different editions of this list also have variations of colour):
    RD5a.jpg RD5b.jpg
    RD2a.JPG RD2b.JPG


    Pearse 1803-1819: military tailors- though not all regiments are listed (does their entry for the 88th suggest that they went from square to pointed?)
    RD3a.jpg RD3b.jpg

    And this lists says it's based on all of the above to show lace for regiments that served in the American campaign (and shows 88th as pointed pairs as per Pearse's amendment): http://www.warof1812.ca/charts/regts_na.htm

    So, yer pays yer money and yer takes yer choice... but if it's single/square (as the bust seems to be) then you could try (according to the Pearses): 7/8/16/38/41/42/44/61/65/66/70/74/77/97
  8. Viking Bob PlanetFigure Supporter

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    I think Stu pointed out it was his typo about being the 88th. He is an infantryman and practically any regiment can be portrayed.
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  9. Nap Moderator

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    I just look forward to paying Stu for the order when it's cast up as well as seeing others versions of this fine bust ...whichever Regiment

    Happy benchtime

    Nap
  10. gothicgeek A Fixture

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    Hi all!
    DSCF8367.JPG Here's where I'm at with this piece... Still some staining and such to do on the hat and the cross belts are just blocked in .
    So lace :)
    anyone got and pictures of museum examples of how they look?
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  11. Nap Moderator

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  12. NeilW A Fixture

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    Fantastic link Nap... and the pics show the fairly basic/low quality of the 'lace' (really just an embroidered twill tape). Also useful that the patterns' backing cloths are in the facing colours.

    Interesting that the Ffoulkes 1768 pattern book only has square ended and bastion styles... anyone know if pointed etc were later developments?

    There's useful links to them here and for Windsor, here.

    ... and a useful article on the topic of lace here

    Neil

    BTW: seeing Mark's painted up version (looking good (y)) I'm still unclear whether the bust's laces are singly spaced or in pairs (just about pairs?). Looking at the various surviving items (including Naps) it's clear that there was no single (if any) specification and the spacing could vary quite a lot... with in some cases the lace being horizontal and others angled upwards.
  13. NeilW A Fixture

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  14. bucsfan21 Well-Known Member

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    Dang, that sure paints up nicely! Can't wait to get mine! Thanks to Stormtroopers for a very colorful and character filled release!

    Happy Holidays to You All from Atlanta, Georgia and the Atlanta Military Figure Society Terry Martin
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  15. tock24 Active Member

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    Think I owe Stuart and Carl an apology for diverting the original post! My copy arrived yesterday [brilliant service by the way!] and as said, its a really nice bust, regardless of regiment! As an old War of 1812 reenactor I may just skip from Spain to the Niagara frontier to find my inspiration!
    BR
    Ian
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  16. Nap Moderator

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    Hi Ian

    Glad you've got yours safely ...waiting in hope to see that more have been cast and are available

    Hope we see your version soon

    Happy benchtime

    Nap
  17. Wayneb A Fixture

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    Hi Stu,
    Super looking piece....Love that 1/6 scale....Great for us ageing geezers. Good to see Carl is still creative and producing quality work. Maybe something a bit different; I know Carl likes American Indians, or something a bit more generic...... Hint, ......Keep up the good work......

    Wayne
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  18. MalcC A Fixture

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    Lovely Jubbly, want one. :)

    Malc
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  19. stu A Fixture

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    Hi Folks

    Thank you again, just put a few more up and more coming.

    Stuart
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  20. Nap Moderator

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    Thanks Stuart ...just ordered

    Nap

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