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Help With Alpine's Wss Grenadier Nco #35152

Discussion in 'General Figure Talk' started by Sturm Grenadier, Feb 25, 2013.

  1. Sturm Grenadier Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Hello Everyone, When a new figure/bust is released, wearing a non-standard item of clothing, such as this Grenadier's rabbit fur jacket, it peaks my interest in to finding as much information as I can, on its origin, and possible wartime photos or paintings. I have found only one photo of this jacket, minus the yellowish trim, as depicted by Man-Jin Kim's boxart. I have found a photo of a coat with this particular trim, but no jacket. My questions to you are these; Is this jacket of German origin, or perhaps Russian? Also, does anyone have a photo, or a source, showing this particular jacket? I have included two photo's of Taesung Harmms excellent sculpture of this figure, and a grouping of the jacket, and coat. They may be of use to you, if you decide to paint this great looking figure. Thanks for any help you can give me. Regards, SG 35152a.jpg 35152e.jpg furjacket.jpg 10018.jpg
  2. Richie A Fixture

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    Hi SG,
    This is from the book German Army Uniform of WW2 in colour photographs. Hope this helps or is something like what you are seeking.
    cheers
    Richie
    CIMG5517.JPG CIMG5519.JPG
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  3. pmfs A Fixture

    Country:
    Portugal
    Hi SG!

    What I know is that this type of coat was used by Germans & Russians, the german type was produce to the harsh weather in Eastern front, you can see in this pics and in the link below.
    Please tale a look: HERE!!!

    Hope this helps you, anything just ask.

    Pedro.

    Attached Files:

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  4. T50 A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    I guess the question has been answered to. :)
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  5. Sturm Grenadier Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Hello Richie, Thanks for your photo and info on the jacket. I remember seeing civilian "coats for the front" drives and collections in photo's and films, especially around the time of Stalingrad. I wonder how many, if any, actually made it there. Your help was much appreciated. Regards, SG(y):)
  6. Sturm Grenadier Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Hello Pedro, Thanks for the photo's and the site. The site looks interesting, and I'll have to give it a closer look. Your help was much appreciated. Regards, SG(y):)
  7. Sturm Grenadier Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Hello Taesung, I really like this figure, and the companion grenadier, in your new set. I believe your best 1/35th to date. As others have stated, and I agree, it would be great to see more figures in this type of attire to compliment this set. Maybe a Mortar crew?;) Just a suggestion. Looking forward to your next releases. Regards, SG(y):)
  8. T50 A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    This set is supposed to be a sequel set to my previous winter SS grenadier set.

    As for the fur jacket, I don't think it was from civilian collection because the most
    them were identical or similar in design. BTW, the short thicker sheep skin jackets
    Wünsche and other SS officers wore from German Navy stock if I'm not mistaken.
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  9. Johan Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Belgium
    You mean like Diefenthal's sheepskin jacket ? Wasn't it actually French tanker's or mountain trooper's jackets or something they found stocks of in 1940 ?
    --> http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=622728
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  10. T50 A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    Yup, that's it.

    You would also notice that the nylon seams are different to individual jacket.
    This is due to the size of the fur pieces available... doesn't mean different design
    or model.
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  11. Johan Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Belgium
    ... Now I recall ... these sheepskin jackets were first issued to the French Foreign Legion and the Chasseurs Alpins in Norway in 1940. Guess the Germans found stocks of them in France ...

    Legionnaires_Skua_Narvik1940.jpg legionnairesNarvik1940.jpg
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  12. Sturm Grenadier Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Hello Taesung, Thanks again for the info. I also have the other set you mentioned, and yes they do compliment your new set very well, but I was suggesting the possibility of seeing more figures wearing the Khakov Parka. I like the walking poses, they are extremely well sculpted and realistic. If they look as good as the Grenadier w/parka in your new set, I'm sure they would be very successful with Armor Modelers and Figure painters alike. I hope to see them in the future. As always, I look forward to all your new releases. Any progress on your Peiper figure? Regards, SG;):)(y)
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  13. Sturm Grenadier Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Hello Johan, Thanks for posting your photos. I have seen photos of German troops wearing the jacket shown in the aircraft picture before. It's nice to learn the history of where these garments originated from, especially when you know nothing about them. Thanks again, great photos. Regards, SG:)(y)
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  14. Johan Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Belgium
    ... German troops in WW2 were incredible plunderers and thieves of other Army's stocks :) they were especially keen on things that were better than their own stuff ... Czech tanks and fire arms taken when they dissolved Czechoslovakia and annexed Bohemia, Belgian pistols, huge quantities of all sorts of French clothing (underwear, socks, sheepskin jackets, and so on), and all french vehicles they could lay their hands on ... they used the excellent chassis of Czech and French tanks right to the end of the war. The Germans did all this in a very organized and economical way, so that it was almost organised crime; they were more professional thieves than the Maffia ever was :)

    The Norwegian Campaign is a largely overlooked part of WW2 - it's a shame really, and a very interesting campaign which shows the weaknesses of the Germans in 1940 and how the British and the French could still have won the war there and then in May-June 1940 ... The Norwegians knew, but nobody ever listened to the Norwegians ...
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