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Royal Scots Grey 1914

Discussion in 'vBench (Works in Progress)' started by Dan Morton, Jul 28, 2007.

  1. Dan Morton A Fixture

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    United-States
    Whew! Who knew how much extra work was involved making a mounted figure!?

    I'm reasonably satisfied with the outcome, except for the reins. I've made the reins from mylar map tape and done as good a job as I know how, including adding buckles and snaps where they should be, but I'm not totally happy with them. Too thin. If you carefully glue them down to the right places you can make them lay properly, but you can't do much with the thickness. Anybody got a better idea for horse reins? I think putty is out of the question because it would just be too fragile - even Duro or Pro-Create. I'm stumped for anything better, however.

    Anyways, hope you like the the little cavalryman.

    British Royal Scots Greys Cavalry Sergeant, 1914
    Mounted figure in 120mm or 1/15th scale
    Head from Michael Roberts, One hand from The Lost Battalion, Boots from Jaguar, Canteen from Model Cellar.
    Uniform markings are for a Sergeant of the Royal Scots Greys in France, 1914.
    • M1902 service dress tunic and trousers in khaki serge
    • M1905 service dress cap, badge shows the Eagle of the French 45th Line captured at Waterloo
    • Rolled mackintosh cape in front of the saddle and rolled khaki greatcoat in back of the saddle
    • Khaki putties wound bottom to top and blackened ‘ammunition boots’, with spurs
    • M1902 Haversack
    • Cavalry water bottle
    • Cavalry mess tin
    • SMLE rifle, M1908 leather rifle bucket
    • 90 round M1903 leather bandoleer, five pouches in front, four in back
    • M1908 sword and metal scabbard in leather cover
    • Universal Pattern (UP) saddle
    • Wood horse picketing peg and rope, collapsible canvas horse bucket, both strapped to the sword

    All the best,
    Dan

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  2. paulyrichard New Member

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    United-Kingdom
    Superb lookin' piece of work, Dan.

    A good thing to use for the reins would be some 0.25mm styrene sheet, this is the exact thickness your lookin' for, for the reins.
  3. Dan Morton A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    Paul - Thanks for the compliment and the suggestion. Have you used sheet styrene for reins? Never would have thought of it.

    I neglected to mention that this one will be painted by Rod Allison of New Zealand. A fine painter of many museum quality miniatures, I am particularly looking forward to Rod's dapple grey horse!

    All the best,
    Dan
  4. billyturnip A Fixture

    Country:
    England
    Nice work Dan. There's a lot of painting for Rod there. I look forward to seeing it painted up. I'm glad I wriggled out of this one, I'm sure he'll make a much better job of a dapple grey than I could.

    Roger
  5. eissteban Active Member

    Country:
    France
    congratulations Dan
    Who will paint this one ?
  6. Stephan Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Germany
    I like him very well, I like the pose how he s coming up from his saddle.
    This told me that there is everything he seen on his side.
    very nice very nice.
  7. Dan Morton A Fixture

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    United-States
    Sebastien and Stephan - Many thanks gentlemen! This one will be painted by Rod Allison in New Zealand.

    Roger - I would have been perfectly happy with you painting this one, my friend! :) I pretty much always give you first crack at anything you are interested in doing and will continue to do so.

    But I'm sure Rod will do a fine job!

    All the best,
    Dan
  8. paulyrichard New Member

    Country:
    United-Kingdom
    I'm currently workin' on assemblin' a 75mm Italian Knight, and it comes with two white metal straps for his sword, and one strap for the end piece of his belt. I'm considerin' on ditchin' these and usin' this same size (0.25mm) styrene sheet I mentioned to you earlier, for 'em instead. They're studded too, for that i'll use liquid putty.

    I think for 120mm its good to use 0.25mm, if not try some 0.50mm but this maybe literally a little too thick. Try some.

    I have all grades and thicknesses of styrene sheet here in front of me, on my workbench, its totally suitable for reins and straps.
  9. theseeker Member

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    United-States
    very nice figure in a realistic and very believable pose. You may want to try lead foil for the reins. I used it years ago on 120mm horse.
  10. Dan Morton A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    Rocky, thanks for your comments! I did try lead foil but I wanted one piece long enough to make up one length of reins and didn't have sheets that were big enough. I agree that it would have worked. I tried gluing bits together and that didn't seem to work very well. I was even considering folded aluminum foil, but it was much too crinkly. Anybody have a source for long strips of lead foil? In 120mm or 1/16th scale, they need to be about 190mm long to represent about 10 feet of full size reins. The 10 foot length is standard for British cavalry of the period according to someone on the Military Horse forum.

    All the best,
    Dan
  11. paulyrichard New Member

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    United-Kingdom
    Dan, lead foil is tricky, once its kinked thats the whole deal busted.

    Regards, Paul.
  12. vergilius New Member

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    Belgium
    great stuff !!
  13. captnenglish Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Looks great Dan. It might be the pics, but there appears to be a gap behind the left shoulder. I'm sure Rod will have blast painting this one
  14. Dan Morton A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    Vergilius & Matt - Many thanks! Matt, I'm not sure what you're seeing. The photos certainly aren't perfect! It could be a cord (I made it with metal corded wire.) running around the shoulder seam and into the pocket. That might look like a shadow or a gap. The cord is attached to a cavalryman's knife carried in the left upper coat pocket. [Doesn't seem too practical a way to carry a knife, but that's what they did.]

    All the best,
    Dan
  15. captnenglish Well-Known Member

    Country:
    United-States
    Yup, that's my bad
  16. MAB Well-Known Member

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    Italy
    Hi Dan ...... Nice Job ...... you continue in this road ;)
    Saluti MAB :)
  17. elanlane13 A Fixture

    Country:
    England
    Dan, lovely work. He sits well in the saddle and looks very convincing. As usual the equipment is excellent.

    Should there be a strap from the rear of the saddle around the tail?
  18. Ulrich A Fixture

    Country:
    Germany
    Hi Dan

    Beautiful scene. I like it very much. A very realistic pose.

    You have ask for a source for lead foil. I have got it from a friend of mine, who is dental technician. He has lead foil, which is tinned. This foil is nearly 90mm wide and over 400mm length. You can get that foil in different thickness between 0,3 and 1,0 mm. Perhaps you know someone who works in a dental lab

    Ulrich
  19. Dan Morton A Fixture

    Country:
    United-States
    Maurizio - Many thanks! Much appreciated!

    Robert - Many thanks! The strap from the rear of the saddle to the tail - I haven't seen photos showing that. Do you have some? Not too sure what you mean or the purpose. There could have been a strap running up and around the slot at the back of the UP saddle. On some saddles I saw this and others I didn't, so I didn't put it in. I don't know it's purpose.

    Ulrich - Many thanks! I'll see if I can find a retail dental supply house. I know one former dental lab technician also.

    All the best,
    Dan
  20. Christos Well-Known Member

    Country:
    Greece
    Very good Dan,creating a miniature is a very difficult thing.Compliments!
    christos

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