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Discussion in 'General Figure Talk' started by swralph, May 19, 2017.

  1. swralph A Fixture

    Hello my Friends.
    I'm working on this kit and wondered what colour the badge is on his right arm.

    TW10B04-3[1].jpg DSCF4615.JPG
  2. napoleonpeart Forum Moderator

    Hi Raloh

    The badge I believe denotes the 9th Division

    He's an original version think there may be other colours , I have other details ..some where !


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  3. swralph A Fixture

    Cheers Nap:).
    I have circular thistle pattern.
    It is the rectangular patch on his right arm I'm unsure of,I think it may be red white and blue.
  4. napoleonpeart Forum Moderator


    Sorry didn't look!!! could be a tartan patch ..will have a dig around

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  5. peedee PlanetFigure Supporter

    The badge on the figure is completely wrong Ralph.
    So is yours Kev.
    The badge on both sleeves should be the red rise on kahki circle of the 55th West Lancs Division as in the picture below.

    The one cast on the sculpt it is an assault identifying patch actually worn below the collar at the rear of the jacket as two black stripes with the kahki of the jacket between.This should be replaced with a dulpicate of that on the left sleeve.
    post-63-0-99753300-1332755096 (1).jpg
    Whoever did the box art has painted the left arm patch the same colours as a tiny sweetheart enamelled lapel badge given to a lady by a chap in the Loyals, a sister regt in the division.

    In addition the cap badge rosette is set both too high and too far forward.
    The diced banding is modelled too deep on the figure.
    this means the ribbons you fit will be completely wrong altogether and too thick
    The rear of the cap is not a glengarry shape at all and is sculpted as a sidecap

    To make corrections is easy.first brush some vaseline onto the left arm badge, using a soft lump of putty press it onto the badge and allow to set..making a simple press mould.
    paintbrush some vas into the mould and use a small press of putty to cast a new badge.

    The dimensions for a gengarry cap diced border slthe same as the hanging ribbon width.

    I have corrected three of these so far, it takes me about half an hour.
    Pm me if you want me to do this for you mate.
    I am about to do one for Red Tom.


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  6. peedee PlanetFigure Supporter

    Better pics.
    Screenshot_2017-05-19-23-37-14-1.png Screenshot_2017-05-19-23-38-07-1.png
    The divisional memorial and motto.
    they lived up to it sadly in August 1916
    in an ill fated attack that led to a slaughter.
  7. napoleonpeart Forum Moderator

    Hi Paul

    Thanks for coming in on this excellent details

    Thanks for info useful for Ralph as well

    What do you think the badge is I posted so I can update my info

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  8. peedee PlanetFigure Supporter

    Its such a shame that the sculptor refused to make the changes after the mistakes were pointed out.

    I am not attacking anyone here.
    Darren was informed quietly behind the scenes but couldn't getbthe changes made.
    I will post pics of a finished one tomorrow.
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  9. mick3272 PlanetFigure Supporter

    Well Done Paul.
    I knew you had your uses apart from eating cake.
    Cant get much better info than that above,
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  10. swralph A Fixture

    Cheers Paul:).
    This is some great info.
    The problem I have now is I've painted around the badges.
    If I start to mess about trying to correct the mistake,everything is going to end up a mess.
    Though I know it to be wrong(and wanting to get on with the bust)could I just paint the rectangular badge as a patch of Tartan(as shown in the pic with all the badges)?.
  11. peedee PlanetFigure Supporter

    Nope, not at all mate, tartan patches were not usd even to back a badge on a tam o shanter till after the conflict.

    It is just too wrong Ralph.
    both the cap and the badges.

    Post it to me.
    Go fishing.
    Have it back in a couple of days.
    Happy Ralph.

    The tartan backed badges are from 1937 onwards.
    the small ones are epaulette slides from the 1970's
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  12. swralph A Fixture

    I'm gonna have a think Paul.
    I don't want to stress myself out:).
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  13. napoleonpeart Forum Moderator

    Hi Guys

    Be good to see pictures of Psils completed and corrected version if it's possible ...possibly details of how much things need to be moved , changed etc

    As he is wearing the jerk on woukd that battle patch have shown enough to add ?

    Looking forward to seeing what Paul did

  14. peedee PlanetFigure Supporter

    You already have Kev
    ..I sent you pics when I did it about a year ago!.

    Will post them on here tonight.

    I didnt post them at the time because it could have looked like I was denegrating Tommy's War and Darren's super range.

    Darren knew about this at the time but all to late to rework it for production.

  15. napoleonpeart Forum Moderator

    Hi Paul

    I can't find the blooming pics ! ....thanks for agreeing to post again .

    The range is as you know discontinued which is a real shame , Darren is selling them off on e bay at bargain prices

  16. peedee PlanetFigure Supporter


    The info on the insignia is contained in an illustration by Mike Chappell in the Osprey title British Battle Insignia vol 1
    And depicts a Liverpool Scottish soldier in full battle order as at August 1916 at the assault on Guillemont on the Somme.
    the picture is drawn from the right rear quarter showing a mixed equipment load.

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